Fubini's Theorem apply? Volume

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The discussion revolves around finding the volume of a region defined by specific boundaries in three-dimensional space, particularly focusing on the application of Fubini's Theorem. The subject area includes calculus and multivariable integration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore different integral setups to calculate the volume, questioning the correctness of the limits provided. There are discussions about the necessity of additional limits and the implications of the region being above the x-y plane.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's proposed integrals. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for proper limits and the conditions under which the volume is defined, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the boundaries of the region and whether the problem statement has been accurately interpreted. Participants are questioning the assumptions about the limits and the necessity of being above the x-y plane.

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Find the volume of the region bounded by x = - 1, \ x = 1, y = - 1, y = 1 and z = x.

Is this equaled to \int_{0}^{1} \int_{ - 1}^{1} \int_{ - 1}^{1} dx \ dy \ dz?

Can it also equal \int_{ - 1}^{1} \int_{ - 1}^{1} \int_{0}^{x} \ dz \ dx \ dy?
 
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Neither is right. Your limits don't enclose any bounded region.
 
How would I fix it?
 
tronter said:
How would I fix it?

Add another limit. Are you sure you copied all of the limits from the problem you want to solve?
 
It also has to be above the x-y plane. Yeah I copied it correctly. So maybe the problem is wrong? You could also take the determinant right?
 
The first integral is completely wrong: it is the volume of the rectangular solid 0\le z\le 1, -1\le y\le 1, -1\le x\le 1.

For the second integral, where did you get the lower limit z= 0? That is what Dick is suggesting you may have missed.
 
tronter said:
It also has to be above the x-y plane. Yeah I copied it correctly. So maybe the problem is wrong? You could also take the determinant right?

It could be above the xy plane, if you say so. But nothing in the original boundaries forces that to be true. Take the determinant of what?
 
If it is above the x-y plane, then z cannot be negative. Its bounded by the x-y plane.
 
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tronter said:
If it is above the x-y plane, then z cannot be negative. Its bounded by the x-y plane.

And if z can't be negative, then your lower x limit isn't -1 either.
 
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Then it would be \int_{-1}^{-1} \int_{0}^{1} \int_{0}^{x} \ dz \ dx \ dy?
 
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If you add the restriction z>0 as well, yes.
 
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Thank you for your help Dick and HallsofIvy.
 

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