Fundamental Matrix: Proving Vectors Solutions

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around proving that two vector functions, \(\overline{x}(t)\) and \(\overline{y}(t)\), are solutions to a given matrix differential equation. The subject area includes differential equations and vector calculus.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants suggest substituting the vectors into the matrix system to check if the equations balance. There are discussions about differentiating the vectors and performing matrix multiplication to verify solutions. Some participants express confusion about the relationships between the vectors and their derivatives.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have confirmed that one of the vectors is a solution, while others are still questioning the validity of their approaches and the relationships between the vectors.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of potential typos and misunderstandings regarding the differentiation and substitution processes. Participants are navigating through these issues without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement



Show that the vectors
\overline{x}(t) =<br /> \begin{bmatrix}<br /> e^t<br /> \\ -t<br /> \end{bmatrix}<br />

and

<br /> \overline{y}(t) =<br /> \begin{bmatrix}<br /> t <br /> \\ e^(-t)<br /> \end{bmatrix}
are solutions for

\overline{x}&#039; = \frac {1} {1+t^2} <br /> \begin{bmatrix}<br /> 1+t &amp; e^t(1-t) <br /> \\ -e^-(t) (1+t) &amp; t-1 <br /> \end{bmatrix}<br /> \overline{x}<br /> .

The last row should be a 2x2 matrix. The x and y are vectors.

The Attempt at a Solution



I feel that it would be helpful to have fundamental matrix here: \Phi(t,s).
 
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Perhaps I'm missing something: why don't you simply substitute the given vectors into the matrix system and see if things balance?
 
statdad said:
Perhaps I'm missing something: why don't you simply substitute the given vectors into the matrix system and see if things balance?
You're not missing anything at all. soopo should take x(t), find x'(t), and then observe that these vectors make the differential equation identically true.

Then do exactly the same thing for y(t) and y'(t).
 
statdad said:
Perhaps I'm missing something: why don't you simply substitute the given vectors into the matrix system and see if things balance?

I get x&#039; = (e^t, -1) by putting x to x' and x&#039; = (1,-e^t) by putting y to x'.
This gives me t = -t that is 1 = -1 which is false.
 
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soopo said:
I get x&#039; = (e^t, -1) by putting x to x' and x&#039; = (e^t, -1) by putting y to x'.
This gives me t = -t that is 1 = -1 which is false.
What do you mean "by putting y to x'"? You have what amounts to two problems: showing that x(t) = (et, -t) is a solution of the differential equation and showing that y(t) = (t, e-t) is a solution.

I have done the first part and have confirmed that x(t) is a solution.
 
Mark44 said:
What do you mean "by putting y to x'"? You have what amounts to two problems: showing that x(t) = (et, -t) is a solution of the differential equation and showing that y(t) = (t, e-t) is a solution.

I have done the first part and have confirmed that x(t) is a solution.

I had a typo in my reply.
I mean by "putting y to x" that you make y equals x in the last statement for x'.

I differentiate the x by getting the same x' which I get by plugging in the x for the statement x'.

How can you show that x(t) = (et, -t) is a solution of the differential equation?
 
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What you are calling the "last statement for x'" is the differential equation. You are trying to show that the vector functions x(t) and y(t) are solutions of this differential equation.

Are you trying to show that x(t) = y(t) and that x'(t) = y'(t)? If so, that's obviously not true, and that's not what this problem is about.
 
"Perhaps I'm missing something..."

I hadn't had my morning coffee when I posted, so I needed to hedge my bets. :}

soopo: differentiate the vector x, and perform the matrix multiplication using tex] x [/tex] on the right. You should get the sam results - this shows your given vector is a solution. Do the same steps for y.
 
statdad said:
"Perhaps I'm missing something..."

I hadn't had my morning coffee when I posted, so I needed to hedge my bets. :}

soopo: differentiate the vector x, and perform the matrix multiplication using tex] x [/tex] on the right. You should get the sam results - this shows your given vector is a solution. Do the same steps for y.

My y -value obtained by differentiation is different from the one obtained by substitution that is<br /> (1, -e^(-t)) != (t^2 + 1, -2e^(-t))
 

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