Fundamental standing wave problem

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The discussion revolves around a fundamental standing wave problem involving a 40-cm long string that is clamped at one end and free at the other. Participants are exploring the relationship between wave speed, frequency, and wavelength in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the wave equation and the implications of the string being clamped at one end. There is a consideration of whether to use 1/2 wavelength or 1/4 wavelength in the calculations. Questions arise about the nature of nodes and antinodes in relation to the boundary conditions of the string.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the correct approach to determine the frequency of the string's vibration. Some participants have suggested drawing diagrams to aid understanding, and there is a recognition of differing interpretations regarding the behavior of waves at clamped and free ends.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the implications of the string's boundary conditions and how they relate to the fundamental mode of vibration. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity on the definitions of nodes and antinodes in this specific setup.

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Homework Statement



A 40-cm long string, with one end clamped and the other free to move transversely, is vibrating in its fundamental standing wave mode. If the wave speed is 320 cm/s, the frequency is:
A) 32 Hz
B) 16 Hz
C) 8 Hz
D) 4 Hz
E) 2 Hz

Homework Equations



[tex]v = \lambda[/tex][tex]f[/tex]
[tex]L = n(\frac{1}{2}\lambda)[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



[tex]L = n(\frac{1}{2}\lambda)[/tex]
[tex].40 = \frac{1}{2}\lambda[/tex]
[tex]\lambda = 0.8[/tex]
[tex]v = \lambda[/tex][tex]f[/tex]
[tex]3.2 = 0.8f[/tex]
[tex]f = 4[/tex]

Answer: E) 2 Hz

I'm wondering if perhaps the fact that the string is clamped on one end means that it would be like a sound tube that is closed on one end, and then I would have to use 1/4lambda instead of 1/2?
 
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Hi clairez93,

I think that's a good idea. Did you try using it? Did you get the correct answer?
 
Yes, if you use 1/4*lambda instead of 1/2, it gets the correct answer of 2 Hz, but I'm wondering why that works. Does a clamped end really make it like a sound tube? Wouldn't the wave still start and end with a node?
 
Try drawing a diagram of the situation. That's what I did to help me understand. You have a set length L as you said with this 40 cm string clamped at one end and free at the other. You have the string vibrating at the fundamental mode. This is the longest wavelength. Let's look at a diagram of the string as a function of x. Imagine the string clamped at x=0 and free at x=L. Assuming the string has the shape of a sine wave, in the fundamental mode, the shape of the string would start at x=0 and arch upwards and have its crest at x=L. This is 1/4 of a wavelength.

Does this make sense to you? If not, I will try and make a diagram... let me know.
 
clairez93 said:
Wouldn't the wave still start and end with a node?

I meant to add that, no, by definition, there is a free end. That means that it would not end with a node.
 

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