Gaining Intuitive Understanding of Parallel Transporting Tensors

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The discussion centers on the intuitive understanding and visualization of parallel transporting tensors, particularly focusing on tensors of rank greater than one. Participants explore various geometric representations and conceptual frameworks for understanding these mathematical objects in the context of differential geometry and manifold theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests visualizing a tensor of rank greater than one as a pair of arrows emanating from the same point, representing the outer product of two vectors.
  • Another participant proposes that a (0,2) tensor, like the metric tensor, can be visualized as two overlapping sets of parallel lines that curve with the coordinate system, while acknowledging potential limitations to this visualization.
  • There is a discussion about visualizing covectors, with one participant describing them as layers of parallel surfaces rather than lines, using the concept of level surfaces of a function.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the visualization of covectors and the applicability of certain visualizations to exact forms only.
  • One participant mentions that visualizations can work locally, even if a one-form is not closed, suggesting a pointwise approach to drawing pictures in the tangent space.
  • A participant shares a resource, a poster titled "Visualizing Tensors," and another participant requests a PDF version of the material.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying viewpoints on the visualization of tensors and covectors, with some agreeing on certain representations while others raise questions and uncertainties. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the best methods for visualization.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in visualizing tensors, particularly regarding the conditions under which certain visualizations apply, such as the distinction between exact and non-exact forms.

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This discussion may be useful for students and professionals interested in differential geometry, tensor calculus, and those seeking to deepen their understanding of geometric interpretations of mathematical concepts.

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A vector is drawn as an arrow, a covector (one-form) as a series of parallel lines. Is there a way to pictorially represent a tensor of rank greater than one? I want to have an intuitive/geometric sense of what it means to parallel transport such an object, and without a picture I don’t have one.
 
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The outer product of two vectors is a simple tensor.

u^a v^b = w^{ab}

So for visualization purposes, you can imagine a tensor as a pair of arrows emanating from the same point.
 
The book Gravitation, by Misner, Thorne, Wheeler, discusses this ad nauseam. I recommend you take a look at that.
 
Mtw

Yeah … MTW really rocks on this! :smile:
 
Thanks; I just happen to have that massive book on loan from the UNH physics library right now. I like Phlogistonian's idea, too. I guess if a (2,0) tensor can be imagined as a pair of arrows emanating from the same point then a (0,2) tensor like the metric tensor can be visualized as two overlapping sets of parallel lines that curve along with the coordinate system, although I suspect that there are limitations to such things...
 
a covector (one-form) as a series of parallel lines.

I've never known much about visualizing tensors. Could someone explain how this visualization works? It's obvious that a vector can be thought of as an arrow, but I'm not sure how a covector would be a series of parallel lines to be honest.

One visualization I am familiar with applies only to differential n-forms. It grows out of integration theory. Basically, you think of an n-form as being the sort of "density" or volume element that you would integrate over a manifold.
 
zpconn said:
I've never known much about visualizing tensors. Could someone explain how this visualization works? It's obvious that a vector can be thought of as an arrow, but I'm not sure how a covector would be a series of parallel lines to be honest.

One visualization I am familiar with applies only to differential n-forms. It grows out of integration theory. Basically, you think of an n-form as being the sort of "density" or volume element that you would integrate over a manifold.

Well, not really parallel lines, but parallel surfaces. Think of the function f(x). The gradient df or \nabla f defines a one-form, and if you contract with a vector \vec{v}, you get the directional derivative of f in the direction pointed by \vec{v}.

If you take a curve with tangent vector \vec{v}(\lambda) and you integrate \langle df, \vec{v} \rangle along the curve, then by the fundamental theorem of calculus, you are integrating df/d\lambda, or how much f changes. Now think of surfaces f(x) = const, where each surface is evaluated for a different constant, and the constants are say, 1 unit apart. The integral you just computed tells you how many surfaces you have to cross as you move along the curve. MTW calls this "bongs of a bell" but anyway. So people visualize covectors, oneforms of the form df, as stacked surfaces, like layers of an onion.
 
Very nice. That's a neat way of doing it. But am I right in supposing it only works for exact forms (since you visualize it as the level surfaces of a function f such that the one-form is given by df)?
 
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Yup.
 
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zpconn said:
Very nice. That's a neat way of doing it. But am I right in supposing it only works for exact forms (since you visualize it as the level surfaces of a function f such that the one-form is given by df)?

It can always work locally.
 
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robphy said:
It can always work locally.

If said 1-form is not closed...? What is \omega = y\, dx the differential of?
 
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lbrits said:
If said 1-form is not closed...? What is \omega = y\, dx the differential of?
I think he means pointwise (e.g. draw the pictures in the tangent space at the point of interest), rather than being perfectly accurate within an entire open neighborhood.
 
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MeJennifer said:
Very nice!

Do you have a pdf where the individual pages are separated?

Thanks.
Sorry... I don't have that with letter-size pages.
...but here is an early version:
http://physics.syr.edu/~salgado/papers/VisualTensorCalculus-AAPT-01Sum.pdf
 
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