Understanding Parallel Transport

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of parallel transport in the context of a manifold equipped with a metric and a covariant derivative. Parallel transport involves moving a vector along a curve while keeping its orientation the same as at the starting point. However, there is confusion about whether the vector must remain in the tangent space of each point or just stay parallel to itself. The conversation also touches on the difficulty of understanding this concept when imagining the manifold embedded in Euclidean space. The concept of curvature is also mentioned.
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Arcturus7
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I'm currently in a GR class and have come across the notion of parallel transport, and I've searched and searched the last few days to try and understand it but I just can't seem to wrap my head around it, so I'm hoping someone here can clarify for me.

The way I picture parallel transport is thus; if I have a manifold M equipped with a metric, then I can construct a covariant derivative. I do this by using the Levi-Civita connection, which is characterised by having zero torsion and also preserving the metric. The upshot of this is simply that, a) the covariant derivative of the metric is zero, and b) because the connection is torsion free, then we have that the covariant derivatives w.r.t two different coordinates commute. Parallel transport is the act of, if you like, "picking up" a vector which is a member of the tangent space of a point p, and then moving it along come curve C whilst always keeping its orientation the same as it was at p.

This is what confuses me; if we keep it "pointing in the same direction" by using the covariant derivative to vary its components in conjunction with the varying basis vectors, then surely at any given point along the line the vector will not generally be in the tangent space of that point. I was under the impression that it only makes sense to describe vectors as being in the tangent plane of the manifold at a point.

The example I keep coming back to is that of parallel transport along a given latitude of a sphere (not a geodesic). I understand mathematically (i.e I can see why the equations show) that a vector will not be parallely transported along this line because it isn't a geodesic, however by naively looking at a sphere and imagining moving a vector around a fixed latitude I cannot see why the transported vector does not coincide with the original one. I understand also the argument of using a cone tangential to the circle, and this makes sense to me, but surely we should be able to arrive at that conclusion without resorting to the cone?

So I guess my first question is this; when we parallel transport a vector along a curve, does the vector have to remain in the tangent space of each point, or does it have to stay parallel to itself?
 
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Here's a video on it because seeing is believing:

 
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Thanks for the responses. I saw that video and thought it made sense - the guy just sort of "slides" the tangent plane (and this the tangent vectors) along the surface of the sphere. I totally get why that loop leads to two vectors that aren't parallel. However I also watched a video of Leonard Susskind trying to explain the topic and he seemed to suggest what I said in my post, that after each step we have to keep the vector being transported with the same orientation as before.

Maybe it's because I'm imagining embedding the manifold into Euclidean space. If the manifold weren't embedded, surely it wouldn't make any sense at all for a vector to NOT be in the tangent plane?

Edit 1: I also looked through the quotes thread and again, some part s made sense and others didn't. It's really troubling me that it seems I don't have s grasp on what's even happening here.
 
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Arcturus7 said:
So I guess my first question is this; when we parallel transport a vector along a curve, does the vector have to remain in the tangent space of each point,...
Yes. In general in the fiber of each point.
... or does it have to stay parallel to itself?
Yes. But this is a misleading image. What does it mean? It remains unchanged in direction and length, but for "parallel to itself" you needed some outer space, which you don't have. I found the picture of a gun on a tank in the thread I quoted funny but telling.
 
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Arcturus7 said:
Maybe it's because I'm imagining embedding the manifold into Euclidean space. If the manifold weren't embedded, surely it wouldn't make any sense at all for a vector to NOT be in the tangent plane?
This. To point "in the same direction" is a heuristic that you should pay no attention to if it confuses you. If you want to use it, you must remember that the affine connection and the curve define what "in the same direction" means for different tangent spaces. A vector parallel transported along different curves between the same points generally will not result in the same parallel transported vector. This is the entire point of curvature.

Note that you would also typically say that the Levi-Civita connection is metric compatible (not that it preserves the metric, at least I have never encountered this nomenclature), which is equivalent to the metric being a parallel field, i.e., ##\nabla_X g=0## for all ##X##.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Yes. But this is a misleading image. What does it mean? It remains unchanged in direction and length, but for "parallel to itself" you needed some outer space, which you don't have. I found the picture of a gun on a tank in the thread I quoted funny but telling.

I also liked this analogy but I'm not sure how much it helped me. In the case of circling a given latitude, if the tank barrel begins pointing towards north, then halfway round the Earth, where is the barrel pointing? Either; the barrel is pointing in "the same direction" as it was before, which would be into outer space somewhere with a component perpendicular to the Earth which it didn't have originally (since by our own admission it was pointing north); or it is still pointing north because during the parallel transport we forced the vector to remain in the tangent space at each point. Again, I think the issue may be because I'm embedding the sphere into Euclidean space. If it wasn't embedded then I would definitely say the answer was for latter, but in that case I don't understand why circling a latitude would not result in the same vector.

*Edit* reading your comment again, I see that what happens IS the second case, since this is precisely keeping the gun-barrel-vector in the tangent space. That much feels clear, so thank you again!

In response to Orodruin, I suspected as much - that I was holding on to a sort of intuitive interpretation of something that just wasn't helping. Thanks for your help :)
 
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Arcturus7 said:
because the connection is torsion free, then we have that the covariant derivatives w.r.t two different coordinates commute.
that is wrong. when the torsion is equal to zero then the Riemann curvature tensor is responsible for for result of ##\nabla_i\nabla_j-\nabla_j\nabla_i##
Arcturus7 said:
Parallel transport is the act of, if you like, "picking up" a vector which is a member of the tangent space of a point p, and then moving it along come curve C whilst always keeping its orientation the same as it was at p.
it is better to think the parallel transport as a mapping from one tangent space to another one that is from ##T_pM## to ##T_qM## where ##p,q\in M## are the end points of the curve. Scalar product of each two vectors is conserved under the parallel transport.
 
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zwierz said:
that is wrong. when the torsion is equal to zero then the Riemann curvature tensor is responsible for for result of ##\nabla_i\nabla_j-\nabla_j\nabla_i##

True. The correct statement is that ##\nabla_X Y - \nabla_Y X## is equal to the corresponding Lie bracket.

Scalar product of each two vectors is conserved under the parallel transport.
This is a special case. The connection might not be metric compatible, which would mean the scalar product would generally change, or there might not even be a metric, which would render the notion of a scalar product of two elements in the tangent space obsolete. What would be conserved regardless of the connection is the product of the parallel transports of a tangent vector in ##T_pM## and a 1-form in ##T^*_pM##.
 
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AH yes of course you're correct zwierz, I don't know what I was thinking when I typed that!

Your comment is actually very helpful, thanks for the input!
 

What is parallel transport?

Parallel transport is a concept in mathematics and physics that refers to the idea of moving a vector or object along a path without changing its direction. This can be visualized as moving an object along a curved surface while keeping it "parallel" to itself at each point along the path.

How is parallel transport used in mathematics?

In mathematics, parallel transport is used to define and study connections on curved manifolds. It is an important tool in differential geometry, and is used to study concepts such as curvature and geodesics.

What is the significance of parallel transport in physics?

In physics, parallel transport is used to describe how quantities such as vectors or tensors change as they move along a curved path in a spacetime manifold. It is a fundamental concept in general relativity and plays a crucial role in understanding the effects of gravity.

What is the difference between parallel transport and ordinary transport?

Ordinary transport refers to the movement of objects in Euclidean space, where vectors maintain their direction as they move. In contrast, parallel transport takes into account the curvature of the space and ensures that the direction of the object remains unchanged as it moves along a curved path.

How is parallel transport related to geodesics?

Geodesics are the shortest paths between two points on a curved surface. Parallel transport is used to define and study geodesics, as it allows us to move a vector along a path without changing its direction, which is a key property of geodesics.

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