Gauss' Law - Planar Symmetry HELP

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The problem involves calculating the electric field generated by a square plate with a uniform charge distribution. The original poster presents two scenarios: one for estimating the electric field near the center of the plate and another for a point charge approximation at a larger distance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply two different equations for electric fields but expresses confusion about their application, particularly regarding the relevance of distance in the first scenario.
  • Some participants clarify that for a large plate, the electric field can be calculated without considering distance, while others emphasize treating the plate as a point charge for the second scenario.
  • Questions arise about the interpretation of the distance from the plate and its role in the calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing clarifications about the equations and concepts related to electric fields from charged plates. There is a focus on correcting misunderstandings regarding the application of distance in the context of an infinite plate versus a point charge.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the assumptions related to the geometry of the charge distribution and the implications of treating the plate as infinite versus finite. The original poster's confusion about the relevance of distance in the electric field calculation is a key point of discussion.

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Homework Statement


A square plate of edge length 9.0 cm and negligible thickness has a total charge of 6.3 x 10-6 C.

(a) Estimate the magnitude E of the electric field just off the center of the plate (at, say, a distance of 0.50 mm) by assuming that the charge is spread uniformly over the two faces of the plate.

(b) Estimate E at a distance of 62 m (large relative to the plate size) by assuming that the plate is a point charge.


Homework Equations



E = magnitude of electric field
Omega = Surface Charge Density
e = 8.85 x 10^-12 C^2/Nm^2
pi = pi (ie 3.14...)
r = radius
q = Charge

E = (Omega)/(2e)

and then I used E = [ 1/(4pie) ] [ q/r^2 ]

The Attempt at a Solution



Well, I first used the second equation there with q = 6.3 x 10^-6 C
and r = .5 mm = .0005 m to find the magnitude of the electric field.

And then I plugged what I got there into E = (Omega)/(2e) to find Omega.

That was wrong :(. What am I doing wrong? Is there another equation?
 
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mmm... (a) is just the case of finding E field for an infiinitely large plate for the distance to plate is small compare to plate size... so r does not comes in at all...besides you had E = (Omega)/(2e), nowhere is there a "r" in here!

(b) as suggested by the hint, treat it as a point charge
 
"just off the center of the plate (at, say, a distance of 0.50 mm)"

So wouldn't the .50mm be the radius? Or am I just still not getting it?
 
IF you consider that the plate is effectively an infinite plate, THEN you use E=(Omega)/2e as suggested by you... and there is no "r" in this equation!
 

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