General Chemistry 2 for physics major?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the requirements of General Chemistry 2 for physics majors, particularly in relation to course prerequisites and the experiences of students in chemistry courses. Participants share their perspectives on the necessity of taking Chemistry 2 and whether it impacts their ability to enroll in third-year courses.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants indicate that General Chemistry 2 is a requirement for physics majors, while others note that it is only recommended for their program.
  • One participant mentions that their experience in Chemistry 2 provided more conceptual understanding of thermodynamics than a dedicated physics course.
  • There is a discussion about the potential impact of not taking Chemistry 2 on future course enrollment, with some expressing uncertainty about whether it is a prerequisite for any third-year courses.
  • Several participants comment on the competitive nature of pre-med courses and the perception that they serve as a "weed out" mechanism for students, particularly in relation to physics and engineering majors.
  • One participant expresses a desire to replace Chemistry 2 with a proof-based mathematics course, weighing the benefits of each subject.
  • Discrepancies in course requirements between different universities are noted, with one participant considering taking both Chemistry and Physics courses to meet varying requirements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the necessity of taking Chemistry 2 for physics majors, as views vary on its importance and impact on future courses. There is also a lack of agreement on the perceived value of the course compared to mathematics.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the specific prerequisites for third-year courses and the varying requirements across different institutions. The discussion reflects differing experiences and opinions on the relevance of Chemistry 2 in the context of a physics degree.

Who May Find This Useful

Students majoring in physics or engineering, particularly those considering course selections and prerequisites for their degree programs.

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Did any of you take General Chemistry 2 as part of a physics degree? Most of my fellow students are engineers and they are only required to take Chem 1, but the physics degree lists Chem 2 as a recommended course. Either way, is this something that would prevent me from taking any third year courses that have it as a pre-req?

I am debating on dropping that class for the fall semester to pick up an intro to proof based mathematics course. (Though, I will take it later if I must).

Thanks
 
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I'm majoring in physics and chem I and II are required.
 
At my uni all physics majors had to take a year-long general chem course, the 2nd semester was mostly equilibrium/thermochemistry, and in all honestly I felt like learned more (conceptual) thermodynamics there than I did in the designated 2nd year course on the subject.

What is the course content like? Do you see yourself making better use out of a math course?
 
Well, it's required for the degree, so I will take Chem II, (which yes, is thermochem et al). I am just not sure if not having it now, will prevent me from taking any courses. I didn't see anywhere that Chem II was a pre-req for anything, but I could have missed something. I can do Chem II whenever, but I was thinking that replacing it next semester with a proof based course would help me out in the long run.
 
Yea physics majors are required to take Chem 2, while us engineers only need chem 1. Which is a major thank god, because chem 2 for us is a major weed out for pre-meds. The professor who teaches it gives a million assignments and teaches very little, simmilar to my physics I prof.

I feel sorry for chem majors who need chem 2 and physics 1 lol.
 
Why do so many physics and engineering majors like it when the pre-meds are weeded out? :-p I wonder if engineering majors like it when the physics and math majors are weeded out :biggrin:
 
HeLiXe said:
Why do so many physics and engineering majors like it when the pre-meds are weeded out? :-p
Because it's always about us vs. them.
 
HeLiXe said:
I wonder if engineering majors like it when the physics and math majors are weeded out :biggrin:

I honestly never cared very much.
 
there's a **** ton of pre-meds. They need to be weeded out through like a 5 layer filtration system.

I think at my school you can take all the math, physics, and all three engineering disciplines and you'd get less people then those in pre-med. Even two of my best friends are premeds and such I know a lot of them by association.

a lot of them are exactly the brightest in the bunch either, but I guess that happens when you have so many people.
 
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Ryker said:
Because it's always about us vs. them.
lol
cjl said:
I honestly never cared very much.
Yeah after I posted this I was thinking there probably aren't enough physics and math majors to make a noticeable difference.
Chunkysalsa said:
there's a **** ton of pre-meds. They need to be weeded out through like a 5 layer filtration system.
:smile:

cjl said:
a lot of them are exactly the brightest in the bunch either, but I guess that happens when you have so many people.

Yeah I am cool with three pre-med students.. all guys, but there is this girl that hangs out with them and she annoys me to no end with her nonsense -_- They always want to sit by me at lunch and she ALWAYS sits right beside me LOL talking a slew of nonsense. Coincidentally they are all in my chem I class
 
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Of the 2 schools near me that I will eventually transfer to: 1 requires Physics 1 and 2 and only Chem 1; while the other requires Chem 1 and 2 and only Physics 1.
Both are state schools, and this was the BSME curriculum.
At this point, I may take all 4 classes until I decide which school to go to.
To the OP, I was wondering the same questions. Why the discrepancies?
 

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