Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the kinetics of the decomposition of phosphine (PH3) at 950 K, specifically focusing on determining the rate constant for the reaction based on given pressure data over time. Participants explore various approaches to relate pressure changes to reaction order and rate laws.
Discussion Character
- Homework-related
- Mathematical reasoning
- Technical explanation
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant questions whether the reaction order with respect to PH3 needs to be determined before calculating the rate constant.
- Another participant suggests relating changes in total pressure to changes in the number of moles of PH3 to find the reaction order.
- A participant presents an attempt at calculating the rate constant using the natural logarithm of pressures, but later realizes the approach may be incorrect without knowing the reaction order.
- It is noted that the equation used for first-order reactions cannot be assumed valid for reactions of different orders, prompting a need to determine the order first.
- One participant proposes a method of integrating the rate equations for various orders of reaction to find the rate constant and order, but expresses uncertainty about this method's validity.
- Another participant corrects a previous suggestion, emphasizing that the data pertains to total pressure rather than the concentration of a single species.
- There is acknowledgment of the need to convert total pressure data into partial pressures of PH3 to proceed with calculations.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants generally agree on the necessity of determining the reaction order before calculating the rate constant. However, there are multiple competing views on the best approach to achieve this, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the correct method to apply.
Contextual Notes
Participants express uncertainty about the assumptions involved in their calculations, particularly regarding the relationship between total pressure and the partial pressures of reactants and products. The discussion highlights the complexity of integrating rate laws for different reaction orders.