General Physics (I) Kinetic energy and momentum

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving kinetic energy and momentum in the context of a collision between two individuals, Betty and Sally, who are racing for a hockey puck. The problem specifically asks for the final kinetic energies of both individuals after the collision.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the initial kinetic energies of both individuals but realizes that the problem requires the final kinetic energies after the collision. Some participants question the conservation of kinetic energy in collisions and suggest focusing on momentum conservation instead.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the relationship between momentum and kinetic energy in collisions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to write equations for momentum conservation in both the x and y directions to find the velocities after the collision, which can then be used to calculate the final kinetic energies.

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There is an emphasis on understanding that kinetic energy is not conserved in inelastic collisions, which is a key assumption in this problem. The original poster expresses confusion about the next steps and seeks further clarification.

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Betty Bodycheck (mB = 51.1 kg, vB = 22.0 km/h in the positive x-direction) and Sally Slasher (mS = 40.5 kg, vS = 28.0 km/h in the positive y-direction) are both racing to get to a hockey puck. Immediately after the collision, Betty is heading in a direction that is 76.0° counterclockwise from her original direction, and Sally is heading back and to her right in a direction that is 12.0° from the x-axis. What are Betty and Sally's final kinetic energies?

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Kinetic Energy: K=(1/2)mv^2 ... Momentum: p=mvWhen I attempted this problem I first converted both velocity from km/h to m/s. Next I proceeded to calculate Betty's and Sally's KE: [Betty] (1/2)x51.1x(6.11278)^2= 954 J...[Sally] (1/2)x40.5x(7.7779)^2=1225 J.

Both answers were wrong, a few step(s) or missing equations are missing I believe but I do not know what. Can anyone please help?

Thank You.
 
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The question asks for the KE AFTER the collision. Kinetic energy is not necessarily conserved in a collision.
 
I don't quite understand just what you mean. I'm still quite lost on where to start, if you had anymore advice or tips I would greatly appreciate it.
 
When objects collide and the collision is not completely elastic, kinetic energy is not conserved. Therefore the initial KE's do not equal the final KE's. However, momentum is conserved. Big hint: Write equations that relate initial momentum in the X and Y directions before and after the collision of Betty and Sally. This will enable you to solve for the velocities which then can be used to determine the kinetic energy after the collision.
 
I agree with LawrenceC. This problem is a typical conservation of momentum question. Use conservation of momentum in x directions and y directions to solve.
 
Okay, I believe I understand more now. Thanks for the explanation
 
No problem.
 

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