General Relativity: Manifold/Sub-Manifold Metric Theorem Q-Schwarzschild

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application and understanding of a theorem related to manifolds and sub-manifolds in the context of General Relativity, specifically focusing on the Schwarzschild solution and its implications for the geometry of spacetime. Participants are exploring the conditions under which the theorem applies and its limitations regarding dimensionality.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the application of theorem 7.2 from Carroll's notes, particularly regarding the requirement for submanifolds to be maximally symmetric and their relation to 4-dimensional spacetime.
  • The same participant notes that while 2-spheres are maximally symmetric and can foliate a spherically symmetric 3-space, they question how this extends to 4-dimensional spacetime.
  • Another participant requests that questions include relevant equations or links to resources to facilitate discussion, indicating a need for clarity and shared reference material.
  • A later reply suggests that if 2-spheres can foliate a single spherically symmetric 3-space, they should also be able to foliate a 4-dimensional spacetime composed of spacelike slices that are each spherically symmetric.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion contains uncertainty and differing interpretations regarding the application of the theorem to 4-dimensional spacetime and the nature of the submanifolds involved. No consensus has been reached on these points.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully defined the assumptions underlying the theorem's application, particularly concerning the transition from 3-space to 4-dimensional spacetime. There is also a lack of clarity on the specific naming of the theorem referenced.

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I'm looking at Lecture Notes on General Relativity, Sean M. Carroll, 1997.

I don't understand eq 7.4 from the theorem 7.2. As I understand, theorem 7.2 is used when you have submanifold that foilate the manifold, and the submanifold must be maximally symmetric.

I know that 2-spheres are maximally symmetric, and foliate a spherically symmetric 3-space .
I don't understand the introduction of 2 coordinates, i.e. applying the therem to 4-d space-time, as the submanifolds only foliate 3-space, I thought the application of the theoremm would be limited to 3-space?

Also does thsi theorem have a name? So i can look it up elsewhere?

Thanks in advance.
 
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When you ask questions like this, please do not assume that everyone is sitting with a copy of Carrol's lecture notes in front of them. Take the time to write out the equations you are referring to, I guarantee that this will net you more responses. At the very least, provide a link so that people do not have to find it themselves.
 
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binbagsss said:
I know that 2-spheres are maximally symmetric, and foliate a spherically symmetric 3-space .

If they foliate a single spherically symmetric 3-space, they also foliate a 4-d spacetime composed of spacelike slices each of which is a spherically symmetric 3-space.
 

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