General solution of differential equation (express y in term of x)

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The discussion revolves around finding a general solution to a differential equation, specifically expressing y in terms of x. The problem involves integrating factors and the integration of the arctangent function.

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  • Participants explore the use of substitution to simplify the equation and discuss the concept of integrating factors. Questions arise regarding the nature of the arctangent function and its integration, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the derivatives involved.

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The discussion includes various attempts to clarify the problem and explore different methods of integration. Some participants provide guidance on potential approaches, while others express confusion about the necessary calculus concepts. There is no explicit consensus on a single method, but multiple lines of reasoning are being explored.

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i got stucked here. below is the answer given. can anybody help please?

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You can try to simplify the original equation by substituting y(x) = f(x).xn, then see what value of n will get rid of the -y/x term.
 
This looks like a straightforward "integrating factor" problem.

Chet
 
dy/dx +Py(x) = Q(X) if i rearrange i would get 0.5 dy/dx + y/x = arc tan x ... is arc tan x function of x?
 
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delsoo said:
dy/dx +Py(x) = Q(X) if i rearrange i would get 0.5 dy/dx + y/x = arc tan x ... is arc tan x function of x?

Multiply both sides by 2. arc tan x is a function of x.

Chet
 
i redo the question and don't know how to proceed here... any idea on how should i do next ? i don't know how to integreate arc tan x
 

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delsoo said:
i redo the question and don't know how to proceed here... any idea on how should i do next ? i don't know how to integreate arc tan x
Integrate by parts. Do you remember how to take the derivative of arc tan x with respect to x?

Chet
 
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sorry , i checked thru the syllabus, there's no deriative of arc tan x in it or maybe i can do it in other way? any other way?
 
delsoo said:
sorry , i checked thru the syllabus, there's no deriative of arc tan x in it or maybe i can do it in other way? any other way?
Yes. Let y = arc tan x

Then tan y = x

Differentiating both sides with respect to x;

[tex]sec^2y\frac{dy}{dx}=1[/tex]

Also, we have the trig identity: [itex]tan^2y+1=sec^2y[/itex]

So, [itex]sec^2y=1+x^2[/itex]

So, [tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{1}{1+x^2}[/tex]

So, [tex]\frac{d(tan^{-1}x)}{dx}=\frac{1}{1+x^2}[/tex]

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thanks got the solution finally!
 

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