Generate the Fourier transform of the function

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The discussion revolves around generating the Fourier transform of a specific function defined as a sum of shifted delta functions. The subject area includes Fourier analysis and properties of transforms, particularly focusing on the linearity of the Fourier transform.

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  • Participants discuss the Fourier transform of the function defined by a series of delta functions and explore the implications of linearity in Fourier transforms. Some participants express confusion regarding the manipulation of summations and the application of hints provided by the lecturer. Questions arise about the simplification of expressions and the potential for using trigonometric identities to aid in the process.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their attempts and insights. Some have provided expressions for the Fourier transforms and are exploring how to combine them. There is acknowledgment of a hint from the lecturer that may guide the simplification process, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach yet.

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Participants note the complexity of the summation involved and the additional terms introduced by the exponent in the Fourier transform. There is also mention of a specific formula provided by the lecturer that may relate to the problem, but its application remains unclear to some participants.

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Homework Statement


a(x)=f-Nd(x) + f-(N-1)d(x) +...+ f(N-1)d(x) + fNd

Homework Equations


fd(x) = (1/a for |x-d| < a and 0 otherwise)
Fourier transform of function g(x) is g~(p) = 1/root(2pi) ∫ dx e-ipx g(x)

The Attempt at a Solution


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I have found the general Fourier transform for the function fd(x) and got:
f~(p) = root(2/pi) e-ipd sin(pa)/pa

I then tried to use the linearity of Fourier transform and added the solutions for f(x) but subbed in the various N, N-1 etc but got muddled up and a little confused.

Is this the right thing to be doing? Is this going to come out as a nice clean answer?

Thanks in advance.
 
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It looks OK so far. You have an expression for the Fourier transform of ##f_d##:
$$\hat{f_d}(p) = \sqrt{\frac{2}{\pi}} e^{-ipd} \frac{\sin(pa)}{pa}$$
You need an expression for the Fourier transform of ##f_{kd}## where ##k## is an arbitrary integer. This will obviously be
$$\hat{f_{kd}}(p) = \sqrt{\frac{2}{\pi}} e^{-ipkd} \frac{\sin(pa)}{pa}$$
Now apply linearity. You want the Fourier transform of
$$\sum_{k=-N}^{N}f_{kd}(x)$$
which is
$$\sum_{k=-N}^{N}\hat{f_{kd}}(p) = \sum_{k=-N}^{N} \sqrt{\frac{2}{\pi}} e^{-ipkd} \frac{\sin(pa)}{pa}$$
Can you see how to simplify this?
 
jbunniii said:
It looks OK so far. You have an expression for the Fourier transform of ##f_d##:
$$\hat{f_d}(p) = \sqrt{\frac{2}{\pi}} e^{-ipd} \frac{\sin(pa)}{pa}$$
You need an expression for the Fourier transform of ##f_{kd}## where ##k## is an arbitrary integer. This will obviously be
$$\hat{f_{kd}}(p) = \sqrt{\frac{2}{\pi}} e^{-ipkd} \frac{\sin(pa)}{pa}$$
Now apply linearity. You want the Fourier transform of
$$\sum_{k=-N}^{N}f_{kd}(x)$$
which is
$$\sum_{k=-N}^{N}\hat{f_{kd}}(p) = \sum_{k=-N}^{N} \sqrt{\frac{2}{\pi}} e^{-ipkd} \frac{\sin(pa)}{pa}$$
Can you see how to simplify this?
I don't think it's the way I'm supposed to do it as my lecturer gave a formula as a hint:
1/(x2 + 1/x(N-1) + 1 ... + xN + x(N-1) = (x-(N+1/2) - x(N+1/2)) / (x-1/2 - x1/2)
But I can't see how to manipulate the summation into this as there's the extra part in the exponent?
However I had an idea; as the terms go from -N to N, there will always be a term with the negative of that exponent added to it, so can I use e-ix + eix = 2cos(x) and then add 1 due to the term when k=0?
 
Poirot said:
I don't think it's the way I'm supposed to do it as my lecturer gave a formula as a hint:
1/(x2 + 1/x(N-1) + 1 ... + xN + x(N-1) = (x-(N+1/2) - x(N+1/2)) / (x-1/2 - x1/2)
But I can't see how to manipulate the summation into this as there's the extra part in the exponent?
However I had an idea; as the terms go from -N to N, there will always be a term with the negative of that exponent added to it, so can I use e-ix + eix = 2cos(x) and then add 1 due to the term when k=0?
Realised this wouldn't solve the issue of the summation, just a slightly prettier equations :(
 
jbunniii said:
It looks OK so far. You have an expression for the Fourier transform of ##f_d##:
$$\hat{f_d}(p) = \sqrt{\frac{2}{\pi}} e^{-ipd} \frac{\sin(pa)}{pa}$$
You need an expression for the Fourier transform of ##f_{kd}## where ##k## is an arbitrary integer. This will obviously be
$$\hat{f_{kd}}(p) = \sqrt{\frac{2}{\pi}} e^{-ipkd} \frac{\sin(pa)}{pa}$$
Now apply linearity. You want the Fourier transform of
$$\sum_{k=-N}^{N}f_{kd}(x)$$
which is
$$\sum_{k=-N}^{N}\hat{f_{kd}}(p) = \sum_{k=-N}^{N} \sqrt{\frac{2}{\pi}} e^{-ipkd} \frac{\sin(pa)}{pa}$$
Can you see how to simplify this?
I've figured it out! Thanks for all your help, much appreciated!
 
I think the formula your lecturer meant is
$$z^{-N} + z^{-(N-1)} + z^{-(N-2)} + \cdots + z^{-1} + 1 + z + \cdots + z^{N-1} + z^{N} = \frac{z^{-(N+1/2)} - z^{N + 1/2}} {z^{-1/2}-z^{1/2}}$$
This can be derived as follows. We can write the left hand side more compactly as
$$\sum_{k=-N}^{N}z^{k}$$
Now introduce the change of variable ##m = k + N## to rewrite the sum as
$$\begin{aligned}
\sum_{m=0}^{2N}z^{m-N} &= z^{-N}\sum_{m=0}^{2N}z^m \\
\end{aligned}$$
Do you see what to do next?

Then, assuming you have established the formula
$$\sum_{k=-N}^{N}z^{k} = \frac{z^{-(N+1/2)} - z^{N + 1/2}} {z^{-1/2}-z^{1/2}}$$
you can apply it to your situation by setting ##z = e^{-ipt}## and simplifying the resulting right hand side.
 

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