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The discussion revolves around clarifications regarding Srednicki's Quantum Field Theory (QFT) textbook, particularly focusing on the generation of Feynman diagrams and the implications of tree-level contributions in φ³ theory. Participants express confusion about the absence of tree-level contributions for certain vertex configurations and the rationale behind regularization techniques, specifically the use of a cutoff in integrals. The conversation also touches on the skeleton expansion method in perturbation theory, emphasizing the importance of evaluating n-point functions for processes with fixed external lines. Additionally, the role of translation invariance in decay processes and the derivation of Lorentz representations are discussed, with requests for further resources and explanations on these topics. Overall, the thread serves as a collaborative effort to deepen understanding of complex QFT concepts presented in Srednicki's work.
  • #61
turin said:
I think that you must restrict to the case pA.pB = -|pA||pB| (where A and B are the incoming particles), and therefore restrict the set of Lorentz transformations to rotations and only longitudinal boosts. I'm pretty sure that's what Weinberg means, but I don't have his book, so I can't check. The cross section is invariant to longitudinal boosts, but not transverse boosts.

I sort of read the same thing on some lecture notes for experimentalists. Basically, they say that since the cross-section is an area, a boost perpendicular to the area results in no change. That would seem to imply that if the boost is not perpendicular to the area, then the dimension of the area in the direction of the boost should get length contracted, decreasing the cross-section.

But Weinberg's expression for the cross section is Lorentz-invariant to boosts in any direction:

d\sigma=\frac{1}{4\sqrt{(k_1\cdot k_2)^2-m_{1}^2m_{2}^2}} <br /> |\mathcal T|^2dLIPS_n(k_1+k_2)

where all vectors in that expression are 4-vectors, and k_1,k_2 are the incoming 4-momenta of the two colliding particles.
 
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  • #62
I have a number of basic conceptual questions from chapter 5 on the LSZ formula. Firstly, Srednicki defines a^{\dag}_1 :=\int d^3k f_1(\vec{k})a^{\dag}(\vec{k}), where f_1(\vec{k}) \propto exp[-(\vec{k}-\vec{k}_1)^2/4\sigma^2].

I understand how this creates a particle localized in momentum space near \vec{k}_1 as it is weighted sum over momentum effectively, but don't understand how this endows the particle with any kind of position, or a position near the origin for that matter as Srednicki states?

Also Srednicki asks us to consider the state a^{\dag}_{1}\mid 0 \rangle. Why exactly does this state propagate and spread out, and why is it localized far from origin at t \rightarrow \pm \infty

I follow Srednicki's mathematics leading to 5.11, but I can't see why the creation ops would no longer be time independent in an interacting theory or why indeed there would be any issue in assuming that free field creation ops would work comparably in an interacting theory.
 
  • #63
I also have a few question regarding equations coming from Srednicki's book, though I'm afraid they are all rather trivial.

Trial version of the book can be found http://www.physics.ucsb.edu/~mark/ms-qft-DRAFT.pdf"

First, why is equation 14.33, {A^{\varepsilon /2}} = 1 + \frac{\varepsilon }{2}\ln A + O({\varepsilon ^2}) true?

Second, equations 28.19 till 28.21, where it is argued that from
0 = (1 + \frac{{\alpha G_1^&#039;(\alpha )}}{\varepsilon } + \frac{{\alpha G_2^&#039;(\alpha )}}{{{\varepsilon ^2}}} + ...)\frac{{d\alpha }}{{d\ln \mu }} + \varepsilon \alpha

and some physical reasoning in the paragraph below this equation, we should have have \frac{{d\alpha }}{{d\ln \mu }} = - \varepsilon \alpha + \beta (\alpha )

Now, I do not understand how the terms on the RHS of this equation are fixed. The text says the beta function is determined by matching the O({\varepsilon ^0}) terms, which should give \beta (\alpha ) = {\alpha ^2}G_1^&#039;(\alpha )

What O({\varepsilon ^0}) terms? How to match them?
Also, what are the O({\varepsilon}) terms?

thank you
 
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  • #64
Lapidus said:
why is equation 14.33, {A^{\varepsilon /2}} = 1 + \frac{\varepsilon }{2}\ln A + O({\varepsilon ^2}) true?
A^{\varepsilon /2}=\exp[({\varepsilon /2})\ln A].

Now expand the exponential in powers of \varepsilon.
Lapidus said:
What O({\varepsilon ^0}) terms? How to match them? Also, what are the O({\varepsilon}) terms?
Take the equation

\frac{{d\alpha }}{{d\ln \mu }} = - \varepsilon \alpha + \beta (\alpha )

and plug it into

0 = (1 + \frac{{\alpha {G_1^&#039;}(\alpha )}}{\varepsilon } + \frac{{\alpha {G_2^&#039;}(\alpha )}}{{{\varepsilon ^2}}} + ...)\frac{{d\alpha }}{{d\ln \mu }} + \varepsilon \alpha.

This is supposed to be true for all \varepsilon, so if we do a Laurent expansion in powers of \varepsilon, the coefficient of each power of \varepsilon must be zero. The coefficient of \varepsilon^0 (that is, the constant term with no powers of \varepsilon) is

\alpha^2 G&#039;_1(\alpha)-\beta(\alpha),

so this must equal zero.
 
  • #65
Thanks, Avodyne!

I got two more. (Actually, I have plenty more.)

Inhttps://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=2331156&postcount=13" of this thread, Haushofer asks how we get from 27.11 to 27.12.

I got this far \ln {m_{ph}} = \ln m + \frac{1}{2}\ln \left[ {\frac{5}{{12}}2\alpha \left( {\ln (\mu /m} \right) + {c^&#039;}} \right] + \frac{1}{2}\ln O({\alpha ^2}) but what now?

Also, in chapter 9, in the paragraph below equation 9.9 it says that we will see that
Y = O(g) and {Z_i} = 1 + O({g^2}). Where and when do we see it? In equation 9.18? Does 9.18 require Y and Z to be first respectively second order in g?
 
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  • #66
You are not taking logarithms correctly!

Start with:

m_{ph}^2 = m^2\left[1 + c\alpha + O(\alpha^2)\right].

Take the log:

\ln(m_{ph}^2) = \ln(m^2)+\ln\left[1 + c \alpha + O(\alpha^2)].

Now use \ln(m^2)=2\ln m and \ln[1+ c \alpha + O(\alpha^2)]= c\alpha.

As for Y and the Z's, I would say 9.20 for Y, 14.37 and 14.38 for Z_ph and Z_m, and 16.12 for Z_g.
 
  • #67
Good stuff, Avodyne!

I will be back with more. For now, many thanks!
 
  • #68
I have a question about this part: why can't \frac{d \alpha}{d ln \mu} be an infinite series in /positive/ powers of epsilon? I see that if it is a /finite/ series in positive powers of epsilon, then it must terminate at the eps^1 term, since if it goes to eps^n with n > 1 then there's no way the eps^n term on the right hand side can be zero. But I could imagine the appropriate cancellations happening if it is an infinite series.
 
  • #69
Because you would end up with an infinite series in \varepsilon that summed to zero. The only such series has all zero coefficients.
 
  • #70
My Srednicki questions for today!

As I already had problems with the rather trivial 14.33, the more daunting equations 14.34 and 14.36 are unfortunately also not clear to me.

Question 1

how to go from 14.32

\frac{1}{2}\alpha \Gamma ( - 1 + \frac{\varepsilon }{2})\int\limits_0^1 {dxD(\frac{{4\pi {{\tilde \mu }^2}}}{D}} {)^{\varepsilon /2}}

to 14.34

- \frac{1}{2}\alpha \left[ {(\frac{2}{\varepsilon } + 1)(\frac{1}{6}{k^2} + {m^2}) + \int\limits_0^1 {dxD\ln \left( {\frac{{4\pi {{\tilde \mu }^2}}}{{{e^\gamma }D}}} \right)} } \right]

knowing that

D = x(1 - x){k^2} + {m^2}\] and \int\limits_0^1 {dxD = \frac{1}{6}{k^2} + {m^2}} and \Gamma ( - 1 + \frac{\varepsilon }{2}) = - (\frac{2}{\varepsilon } - \gamma + 1) and {A^{\varepsilon /2}} = 1 + \frac{\varepsilon }{2}\ln A + O({\varepsilon ^2}

My first step would be

- (\frac{2}{\varepsilon } - \gamma + 1)\int\limits_0^1 {dx} D\left[ {1 + \frac{\varepsilon }{2}\ln \left( {\frac{{4\pi {{\tilde \mu }^2}}}{D}} \right)} \right] = - (\frac{2}{\varepsilon } - \gamma + 1)\left[ {(\frac{1}{6}{k^2} + {m^2}) + \frac{\varepsilon }{2}\int\limits_0^1 {dx} D\ln \left( {\frac{{4\pi {{\tilde \mu }^2}}}{D}} \right)} \right]

Question 2

how to go from 14.34

- \frac{1}{2}\alpha \left[ {(\frac{2}{\varepsilon } + 1)(\frac{1}{6}{k^2} + {m^2}) + \int\limits_0^1 {dxD\ln \left( {\frac{{4\pi {{\tilde \mu }^2}}}{{{e^\gamma }D}}} \right)} } \right] - A{k^2} - B{m^2} + O({\alpha ^2})

to 14.36

\frac{1}{2}\alpha \int\limits_0^1 {dxD\ln (D/{m^2}) - } \left\{ {\frac{1}{6}\alpha \left[ {\frac{1}{\varepsilon } + \ln (\mu /m) + \frac{1}{2}} \right] + A} \right\}{k^2} - \left\{ {\alpha \left[ {\frac{1}{\varepsilon } + \ln (\mu /m) + \frac{1}{2}} \right] + B} \right\}{m^2} + O({\alpha ^2})

with the help of redefining
\mu \equiv \sqrt {4\pi } {e^{ - \gamma /2}}\tilde \mu

Sadly, even after staring at it for half an hour, I have no clue what he does here. Though, I assume it is certainly rather simply.

thanks in advance for any hints and help
 
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  • #71
For question one, just insert the small-epsilon approximations for the gamma function and the integrand, multiply everything out to get a bunch of terms, drop terms proportional to epsilon (since they go to zero) and then collect the remaining terms.

For question two, you're going to want to play with logs using some manipulation like ln(mu^2/D) = -ln(D/m^2) + 2*ln(mu/m)
 
  • #72
Thanks for answering, The Duck.

The_Duck said:
For question one, just insert the small-epsilon approximations for the gamma function and the integrand, multiply everything out to get a bunch of terms, drop terms proportional to epsilon (since they go to zero) and then collect the remaining terms.

What you mean with insert the small-epsilon approximations for the gamma function? How and where can I insert it? Is my first step given in the last post correct?


The_Duck said:
For question two, you're going to want to play with logs using some manipulation like ln(mu^2/D) = -ln(D/m^2) + 2*ln(mu/m)

Ahhh! But why are the two ln(mu/m) not in the integrand anymore?
 
  • #73
Lapidus said:
Is my first step given in the last post correct?
Yes, and that's what The Duck meant.
Lapidus said:
But why are the two ln(mu/m) not in the integrand anymore?
Because ln(mu/m) is now just a constant times D, and D has been integrated.
 
  • #74
Got it! Thank you

I hate to test more of your patience, but still two minor quibbles in chapter 14.

In 14.40, the -ln m^2 from the integrand in 14.39 is lumped into the 'linear in k^2 and m^2' part in 14.40, right?

How does Pi(-m^2) vanish via 14.41 and 14.42? I assume the two terms in 14.41 neutralize each other. How can I see this?

Now to the excellent https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=2725516&postcount=35" by RedX, where he adresses 14.8. Can it be said that 14.7 corresponds to mass renormalization and 14.8 to field renormalization? I remember reading that somewhere.

again I would be thankful for any answers
 
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  • #75
Lapidus said:
How does Pi(-m^2) vanish via 14.41 and 14.42? I assume the two terms in 14.41 neutralize each other. How can I see this?

When you plug in k^2 = -m^2, then D = D0, so the log vanishes (ln 1 = 0). Furthermore k^2+m^2 = 0, so the term linear in (k^2 + m^2) also vanishes.
 
  • #76
A simple, new question on Srednicki's book:
Equation 2.26 :
U(\Lambda)^{-1} \varphi(x)U(\Lambda)= \varphi(\Lambda^^{-1}x)

which describes how a scalar field transforms under Lorentz transformation is not derived in the book. Instead it seems to be inspired by time-translation equation (2.24).
Anyone can point me to a proof ?
 
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  • #77
emz said:
A simple, new question on Srednicki's book:
Equation 2.26 :
U(\Lambda)^{-1} \varphi(x)U(\Lambda)= \varphi(\Lambda^^{-1}x)

which describes how a scalar field transforms under Lorentz transformation is not derived in the book. Instead it seems to be inspired by time-translation equation (2.24).
Anyone can point me to a proof ?

I believe this is the definition of a scalar field.
 
  • #78
emz said:
A simple, new question on Srednicki's book:
Equation 2.26 :
U(\Lambda)^{-1} \varphi(x)U(\Lambda)= \varphi(\Lambda^^{-1}x)

which describes how a scalar field transforms under Lorentz transformation is not derived in the book. Instead it seems to be inspired by time-translation equation (2.24).
Anyone can point me to a proof ?

That has always been a point of confusion for me. Forgetting about operators, a solution to the KG equation can be the c-number:

\phi(x)=ae^{ikx}

This shouldn't change under Lorentz transform, so I think what happens is that if you change x to x', k changes to k' such that k'x'=kx. The coefficient 'a' just stays the same.

Now take a superposition of plane waves:

\phi(x)=\int d^3 \tilde{k} a(k)e^{ikx}

How does this behave under Lorentz transform? Well isn't it the same thing:

\phi(x&#039;)=\int d^3 \tilde{k} a(k)e^{ik&#039;x&#039;}

?

But this isn't the same as:

\phi(x&#039;)=\int d^3 \tilde{k} a(k&#039;)e^{ik&#039;x&#039;}

right?

Anyways, what if you look at it differently. What if under Lorentz transform of\phi(x)=\int d^3 \tilde{k} a(k)e^{ikx}

only the x is changed?

\phi(x&#039;)=\int d^3 \tilde{k} a(k)e^{ikx&#039;}=<br /> \int d^3 \tilde{k} a(k)e^{ik\Lambda x}=<br /> \int d^3 \tilde{k} a(k)e^{i(\Lambda^{-1}k)x}<br /> =\int d^3 \tilde{k&#039;} a(\Lambda k&#039;)e^{ik&#039;x}<br />

But is this equal to:\phi(x)=\int d^3 \tilde{k} a(k)e^{ikx}

? Anyways, I don't know. I think I confused myself.
 
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  • #79
Avodyne said:
I believe this is the definition of a scalar field.


I thought the definition of a scalar field was the numerical value of the field at a given point to be Lorentz invariant. That is
U(\Lambda) \varphi(\Lambdax)=\varphi(x)
 
  • #80
No. Think about a temperature field T(x) (a scalar) under rotations in Euclidean space. The rotated version of T(\vec{x}) is T(R^{-1}\vec{x}) where R is the rotation matrix that implements the rotation on 3-vectors. Contrast, say, the electric field, a vector, where if you rotate \vec{E}(\vec{x}) you get R \vec{E}(R^{-1}\vec{x}). A scalar transforms in the simplest possible way: more complicated fields have different components that, like the components of the electric field, rotate into each other under rotations.

Also, while states in QM transform with one transformation operator: | \psi \rangle \to U(\Lambda) | \psi \rangle, operators transform with two transformation operators: \phi(x) \to U(\Lambda)^{-1} \phi(x) U(\Lambda)
 
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  • #81
Okay, I got a question. Consider just the annihilation part of the field operator

\phi_+(x)=\int_R d^3 \tilde{k} a(k)e^{ikx}

where R is a region in momentum space. Srednicki takes R to be the entire R3, but here I'm taking it to be a connected subset of R3.

Now consider a Lorentz transform of this operator:

U^{-1}\phi_+(x)U=\int_R d^3 \tilde{k} U^{-1}a(k)Ue^{ikx}<br /> =\int_R d^3 \tilde{k} a(\Lambda^{-1}k)e^{ikx}<br /> =\int_{\Lambda^{-1}R} d^3 \tilde{k} a(k)e^{i(\Lambda k)x}<br /> =\int_{\Lambda^{-1}R} d^3 \tilde{k} a(k)e^{ik(\Lambda^{-1}x)}<br />

But is U^{-1}\phi_+(x)U=\int_{\Lambda^{-1}R} d^3 \tilde{k} a(k)e^{ik(\Lambda^{-1}x)} really equal to: \int_{R} d^3 \tilde{k} a(k)e^{ik(\Lambda^{-1}x)}=\phi(\Lambda^{-1}x) ?

The integration volumes are different. So for this Lorentz transform to work, does it rely on the fact that the volume is over the entire R3? That's weird.

addendum: o okay I got it, but I won't erase my posts in case anyone else got confused like me. when you integrate over all of momentum space, then you don't have to specify a special momentum k or a special region of momentum k. therefore the final result can only depend on the transformation of the coordinate x as there aren't any special 4-vectors to contract with x. but if your wavefunction is over a special region or a special value of the momentum, you have to specify k and contract it with x. therefore k and x transform. so really you should label the wavefunction \phi(x,k). in other words, the last integral I have is dependent on k through the region of the integration (and not the dummy indices). this has to transform to \Lambda^{-1}R, making the last two integrals equal:

\phi(\Lambda^{-1}x)\neq\int_{R} d^3 \tilde{k} a(k)e^{ik(\Lambda^{-1}x)}\phi(\Lambda^{-1}x)=\int_{R&#039;} d^3 \tilde{k} a(k)e^{ikx&#039;}<br /> =\int_{\Lambda^{-1}R} d^3 \tilde{k} a(k)e^{ik(\Lambda^{-1}x)}
 
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  • #82
Back to chapter 14.

Concerning the fixing of the two purely numerical constants, the two \kappa by imposing the two conditions 14.7 and 14.8.

How do we get 14.43? (Srednicki says it is straightforward, I once again does not see it. Where does the 1/12 come from? When I differentiate 14.41 wrt k^2, the k^2 disappears..)

And what are now the two numerical constants that we wanted to fix?

thanks
 
  • #83
I admit probably not the most sophisticated question ever asked on PF, but could nevertheless someone give me a hint...

thank you
 
  • #84
Lapidus said:
When I differentiate 14.41 wrt k^2, the k^2 disappears..
Then you made a mistake. Remember that D depends on k^2.
 
  • #85
Avodyne said:
Then you made a mistake. Remember that D depends on k^2.

I have to take a derivative of an ln term in an integral?? And Srednicki calls that straightforward? Sorry, I still can't see...

And what are now the two numerical constants??

thank you
 
  • #86
First of all, if you set k^2=-m^2 in eq.(14.39), the result is supposed to be zero, so this gives you -{1\over6}\kappa_A+\kappa_B as an integral over x of a messy function of x. Next you need to differentiate eq.(14.39) with respect to k^2, and then set k^2=-m^2; once again the result is supposed to be zero. To take this derivative, you need to differentiate D\ln(D/m^2) under the integral over x. This gives you \kappa_A as another integral of another messy function of x.
 

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