Undergrad Geometric meaning of reversing the limits of an integral

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The discussion centers on the geometric interpretation of reversing the limits of an integral, specifically in the context of Riemann sums and oriented volumes. Participants clarify that reversing limits results in a negative area due to the orientation of the integral, which is crucial for understanding the calculation of areas under curves. The conversation emphasizes that while the absolute value of an area remains unchanged, the orientation affects the integral's value, particularly when dealing with functions that cross the x-axis. The importance of distinguishing between oriented and unoriented quantities in calculus is highlighted as essential for accurate mathematical analysis.

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  • Understanding of basic integral calculus concepts
  • Familiarity with Riemann sums and their definitions
  • Knowledge of oriented volumes and geometric interpretations
  • Basic algebraic manipulation and function analysis
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  • #31
In a not-so-dissimilar vein -- Physician says to man "you should stop smoking; you'll live longer". Man replies "but Doc, I'm 95 years old already". Doc says "yes, and if you hadn't smoked, you'd be much older".
 
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  • #32
Here's an example where the sign makes a difference.
If f(x) represents a conservative force, where x is a displacement,
then the signed area under the curve represents the signed-work done by the force.
I treat the points on the curve (x,f(x)) as a sequence of "states" in F-x space (as one would do in a Pressure-Volume diagram in thermodynamics).
Switching the limits corresponds to traversing those states in reverse,
yielding the opposite-sign of the work-done by that force.
 
  • #33
Calculus allows for continuously changing object, standard Algebra does, not, it lives in a discrete realm. You cannot speak, e.g. of convergence or infinite sums within Algebra.
 
  • #34
Also remember integrals may tepresent things other than areas. Consider velocity in x axis, time in other . Then integral represents total distance. If x-axis changes sign then this is just, as Fresh said, a change of orientation. as in Physics. Distance is measured in negative sense.
 
  • #35
WWGD said:
Calculus allows for continuously changing object, standard Algebra does, not, it lives in a discrete realm. You cannot speak, e.g. of convergence or infinite sums within Algebra.
A professor whose math class I took said something like "To see at once the beauty of the calculus, observe how it bridges between algebra and geometry". I liked that. His PhD was in Physics, but he was a family man, with the associated pressing obligations, and the job he was offered by the university was teaching math. He said he thought he'd have preferred to teach physics, but he was happy teaching math, in large part because it had so much that was so beautiful.
 
  • #37
Just as the definite integral of a positive function of one variable represents the area of the region between the graph of the function and the x-axis, the double integral of a positive function of two variables represents the volume of the region between the surface defined by the function and the plane that contains ...Integral Calculator
 

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