Geometric Proof of Dot Product: |A dot B| ≤ |A||B|

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The discussion revolves around the geometric proof of the inequality |A dot B| ≤ |A||B| in the context of classical mechanics. The original poster seeks to understand the geometric interpretation of the dot product, particularly in relation to the expression |A||B|cos(θ).

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the geometric view of the dot product and its relation to projections of vectors. Questions arise about interpreting |A||B|cos(θ) geometrically and how it relates to areas formed by the products of scalar magnitudes.

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Participants are exploring various interpretations of the geometric proof, with some suggesting visual representations involving rectangles to illustrate relationships between the products of scalars. There is an ongoing inquiry into the limits of cos(θ) and its implications for the proof.

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The discussion is framed within the constraints of a homework assignment that requires both algebraic and geometric proofs, leading to questions about definitions and interpretations of geometric concepts.

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I am doing a assingment for my classical mechanics class that requires the proof of:
The dot product of |A dot B| <= (less than or equeal to) |A| |B| .

I did the algebraic proof fine but we are required to do a geometic proof as well. This leaves me with the question what is the geometic view of the Dot Product?

At first I brushed it off thinking that it was a prjection of some sort, but I have no idea what |A||B|Cos(Angle) would be geometirally?

Thanks for the help
Derek
 
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derekmohammed said:
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At first I brushed it off thinking that it was a prjection of some sort, but I have no idea what |A||B|Cos(Angle) would be geometirally?

Thanks for the help
Derek
|B|Cos(Angle) is the projection of B upon A.

Lat A and B be two vectors coming out from the origin. They have an angle of Φ between them.
If you draw a line from the tip of B to the vector A such that the line is perdindicular to A, and intersects it at P, say, then |B|cosΦ is the distance |OP| which is the projection of B onto A.
 
I know that |B|Cos(angle) is the projection on A but what is |A|B|Cos(angle)?
This is the question
 
|A||B|Cos(Φ) is simply the product of two scalars and is usually interpreted as two co-linear lines, |A| and |B|Cos(Φ).

Hmmm.

Can you do this ?

Let |A||B|Cos(Φ) be the product of two scalars, S1 and S2, where S1 = |A| and S2 = |B|cos(Φ).
The product of any two scalars is an area: A1 = S1*S2.

So now sketch a little rectangle with sides labelled S1 and S2.

Then |A||B| is also the product of two scalars S1 and S3, where S1 = |A| and S3 = |B|.
The product of these two scalars is A2 = S1*S3.

So now sketch another little rectangle with sides labelled S1 and S3.

Can you do something like this to (geometrically) show that A1 <= A2 ?
 
|A||B|cos (\Theta) is a scaler and represents the magnitude of the vector, the direction is that of A,
 
You want a "geometric" proof of |A dot B|<= |A||B| and you know that, geometrically, A dot B= |A||B|cos(&theta;)?

Okay how large or how small can cos(&theta;) be?
 

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