Define Dot Product: A.B = ||A|| ||B|| cos(theta)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the definition and proof of the dot product, specifically the formula A.B = ||A|| ||B|| cos(theta). Participants explore different proofs and the assumptions underlying them, including the distributive property of the dot product and its relation to the component form of the dot product.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that a proof of the dot product formula assumes the distributive property is valid, while another proof of the distributive property assumes the dot product formula is correct, raising questions about the definitions involved.
  • Another participant asserts that the distributive property of the inner product can be derived from the standard definition of the inner product, suggesting a straightforward relationship between the two concepts.
  • A participant shares a link to a Wikipedia page that provides a short explanation of the dot product, indicating a resource for further understanding.
  • Another participant provides a link to a paper discussing the geometry of dot and cross products, potentially offering additional context or insights into the topic.
  • One participant mentions that the cosine rule is applicable for general proofs in arbitrary R^n, suggesting a broader mathematical framework for understanding the dot product.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the assumptions required for proving the dot product formula and the distributive property, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the interdependence of definitions and properties in vector mathematics, with participants pointing out the potential circular reasoning in the proofs presented. There are also references to different mathematical frameworks that may influence the understanding of the dot product.

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I have seen a proof for the formula of A.B =
||A|| ||B|| cos(theta)[ proof using the diagram and cosine rule]. In the proof they have assumed that distributive property of dot product is right. diagram is given below
100px-Dot_product_cosine_rule.svg.png
c.c =(a-b).(a-b) = a^2 +b^2 -2(a.b) [ here they used distributive law]
  • I have seen another proof for the distributive property of dot product. There they have assumed that A.B = ||A|| ||B|| cos(theta),And used projections. They have used the diagram as given below.
1280px-Dot_product_distributive_law.svg.png

And projection of vector B on A is ||B||cos(theta) = B.a^ ( a^ is a unit vector in the direction of a vector)[ this is possible if the formula of dot product is assumed to be right.
  • How they can do this , for proving dot product A.B = ||A|| ||B|| cos(theta) they have assumed distributive property to be right and for prooving distributive property they have assumed dot product to be right.
Therefore I think that there will be a definition for dot product wether it is A.B = ||A|| ||B|| cos(theta) or A.B = a1a2 +b1b2 +c1c2 (component form). If its a definition then how they have defined it like this.
 
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The distributive property of inner product follows immediately from the basic definition of the standard inner product. Given two vectors ##\mathbf v## and ##\mathbf w##, their inner product is ##(\mathbf v, \mathbf w) = \overline v_1 w_1 + \overline v_2 w_2 + \ldots + \overline v_N w_N##. From this, it should be straight forward to see that ##(\mathbf v + \mathbf w,\mathbf z) = (\mathbf v,\mathbf z)+(\mathbf w,\mathbf z)##.
 
Hey parshyaa.

The cosine rule is done for the general proof and one uses the results for length in arbitrary R^n.
 

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