Geometry & Topology REU Programs - Williams, Cornell, Tennessee, Indiana?

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The discussion centers around the challenges and experiences of students applying for Research Experiences for Undergraduates (REUs) in mathematics, particularly those focused on geometry and topology. Participants express frustration over the limited availability of REUs in these areas and share insights about specific programs, such as those at Cornell and Tennessee, which are noted for their academic rigor. The importance of strong letters of recommendation is emphasized, with advice on how to secure them and what makes them effective. Participants discuss their application strategies, including the necessity of personal statements and the competitive nature of these programs, with some sharing their past experiences and acceptance rates. Concerns about the application process, including the pressure of deadlines and the perceived elitism of certain programs, are also highlighted. Overall, the conversation reflects a mix of anxiety, determination, and camaraderie among students navigating the REU application landscape.
  • #61
The programs I was applying to last year either sent out rejection emails (4-6 weeks after the application deadline) or posted a note on their website that all spots have been filled (more than a month after the application deadline as well). The conclusion I drew is that it takes some programs a considerable amount of time to fill all spots. No reason to get nervous if you have not heard back within a week.

I contacted my "first-choice" programs when I got my first offer. At that point I had to decide if I wanted to commit to a so-so program or take my chances. Luckily I got another offer a day before my one-week-deadline to make a decision was up. I declined the first offer when I got my second, and declined the second offer when I was offered a spot at the program I chose to attend.

I was lucky that all my programs had application deadlines within a week of each other. A friend of mine who is applying to REUs this year is in a more difficult position. She has arranged an independent project with a professor at another university, but they cannot confirm her funding until late March. She will probably have to decide whether or not to accept an REU offer before then.
 
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  • #62
I'm kind of curious about the people that did or have been accepted into these programs. I mean did ya'll have like really high GPA's, come from big colleges, etc.? When I look at the people that participate in these programs, it seems like the majority of them have come from big named colleges. Of course that might be because I'm trying to do mine in astrophysics.
 
  • #63
That got me too. I was looking at lots of programs that tended to accept students from big name schools. I go to a state school, and I'm hoping that doesn't count against me.
I really though carefully about the programs I am applying to, so I'm not just shooting applications out indiscriminately, but I'm wondering what my chances seem to be.
I have a 4.0, but I don't have extensive coursework yet, just the calculus sequence, linear algebra, and discrete mathematics.
Anyways, all I have to do now is write those pesky letters of intent and submit my applications.
 
  • #64
belle said:
That got me too. I was looking at lots of programs that tended to accept students from big name schools. I go to a state school, and I'm hoping that doesn't count against me.
I really though carefully about the programs I am applying to, so I'm not just shooting applications out indiscriminately, but I'm wondering what my chances seem to be.
I have a 4.0, but I don't have extensive coursework yet, just the calculus sequence, linear algebra, and discrete mathematics.
Anyways, all I have to do now is write those pesky letters of intent and submit my applications.

Sounds like you're in the same boat as me. I go to a state school as well, & have a near 4.0 GPA. But this is only my second semester there & I transferred from a community college. I have the same mathematics knocked out & in physics I only have Modern, E&M (& the lower levels of course) done. Though this semester I'm taking abstract algebra, mathematical physics, & quantum mechanics. I applied to 10 programs & tried to choose them wisely, focusing on those that were specifically doing research in areas that I was interested. I think my biggest downfall is I'm just now taking computer science.
 
  • #65
I did the REU at Cornell last summer, which is said to be one of the more selective programs (though not quite as selective as Duluth or Wisconsin). While there were a number of students from big-name schools, we also had a number of students from normal state universities: U of Maryland, Florida Atlantic, and Missouri A&T, among others.
 
  • #66
That's good to know. Not all of the programs post alums anyways.
 
  • #67
Just an idea for those seeking an REU this summer:

If your plans fall through and you don't get an offer from any of your first choices keep an eye out for listings in random places well after the normal Feb - Mar deadlines. Places like Monster job boards where you wouldn't expect to see it.

These can sometimes offer a different experience with much less structure. The main ones will have almost each day planned out where these can be much more free formed.

Speaking from experience. I applied to the REU at Penn State Physics Dept my freshman year and was rejected. I found one around April at Utah State in Comm. Theory with an NSA grant and loved it. Got published by IEEE too.

Just to keep in mind
 
  • #68
Thanks for the advice! I will definitely keep on the lookout, though I have a little bit of time before I know about the first round of things.
I saw that other people shared the places they applied to so:
Lafayette
Northern Arizona University
Miami University
Claremont
College of William and Mary
 
  • #69
I just got rejected from duluth. Its annoying that the hardest one to get into responded first. It gets your hopes down.
 
  • #70
Same here :(
Oh well, I don't think I ever really had a shot at it...
 
  • #71
already hearing back? when was the deadline to apply? i just sent in all mine, should hear back in a few weeks.
 
  • #72
Duluth's deadline was February 10, one of the earlier ones. The ones I applied to aren't due until late February and early March.
 
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  • #73
Has anyone heard back from SMALL REU at Williams Colleges? Their deadline was also February 10, and I've been told that they are already in the process of making final decisions, but i am not aware whether they have started sending out their offers to their top candidates or not
 
  • #74
Just got an offer from Texas A&M. If anybody else applied, they're apparently sending out their first round offers.
 
  • #75
A list I applied to, Uni. of Minnesota, Cornell, Lehigh, North Carolina, Indiana University, Maria Mitchell, Arkansas, Wooster, Idaho, & Michigan. Most of the deadlines have passed, so now I guess I just wait.
 
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  • #76
union68 said:
Just got an offer from Texas A&M. If anybody else applied, they're apparently sending out their first round offers.

Congrats! What research topic will you be working on?
 
  • #77
Thanks a lot! I put all my eggs in the REU basket (absolutely NO backup plan for the summer!), so it's a lot of weight off my shoulders to know I got in somewhere. Whew.

I applied for the Matrix and Wavelet Analysis project.

This thread was a good idea. It's comforting to know I'm not the only one caught up in this crazy REU fiasco!
 
  • #78
union68 said:
I put all my eggs in the REU basket (absolutely NO backup plan for the summer!),

!

Last year i was in the same situation. Although i applied only to two REU's (and got rejected by both by the way), that was my plan A and the only one for the summer indeed. This year, i believe i am in a much much better position, however i have added plan B,C and D to my plan A, just to play it safe :)
 
  • #79
sutupidmath said:
Has anyone heard back from SMALL REU at Williams Colleges? Their deadline was also February 10, and I've been told that they are already in the process of making final decisions, but i am not aware whether they have started sending out their offers to their top candidates or not

I haven't heard from any places yet, including SMALL and Duluth.
 
  • #80
I'm new to the boards, and I had a quick question: Am I the only one who's still getting apps together? I've been sending them off a week (give or take) before the deadlines to ensure they get through the mail, am I completely screwed for not getting all of these done back in January?
 
  • #81
I just mailed an application today and have one left to mail yet, due March 1. I'm generally mailing mine a week or so before the due dates as well.

By the way, congratulations union68!
 
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  • #82
Thanks a lot! I put all my eggs in the REU basket (absolutely NO backup plan for the summer!), so it's a lot of weight off my shoulders to know I got in somewhere. Whew.

I applied for the Matrix and Wavelet Analysis project.

I was in the Matrix and Wavelets analysis group at A&M in Summer 2009. It was a lot of fun, but be prepared to do a good amount of work. It can be quite independent also, so you can be free to work on whatever you want. It's a great experience, and if you work hard enough, you can get a paper out of it. I highly recommend getting the book Frames for Undergraduates and start reading that as soon as possible. That will help give you some ideas for projects also.
 
  • #83
blackfedora said:
I'm new to the boards, and I had a quick question: Am I the only one who's still getting apps together? I've been sending them off a week (give or take) before the deadlines to ensure they get through the mail, am I completely screwed for not getting all of these done back in January?

I have also done pretty much the same: sending off applications a week or two before the deadline. I still have one more to submit and the deadline is February 26.

Good luck to you!

BTW what places are you applying to?
 
  • #84
sutupidmath said:
I have also done pretty much the same: sending off applications a week or two before the deadline. I still have one more to submit and the deadline is February 26.

Good luck to you!

BTW what places are you applying to?

the SMALL program, Clemson, SUNY potsdam, Central Michigan, UNC Asheville, MASS at Penn state, Lafayette, and finally the program at William and Mary.

I'm a little worried since I'm just an average math major coming from a small liberal arts college, but if I don't get in anywhere I guess I'll try to get some research here and if that fails... back to working at denny's? :gulp:
 
  • #85
blackfedora said:
the SMALL program, Clemson, SUNY potsdam, Central Michigan, UNC Asheville, MASS at Penn state, Lafayette, and finally the program at William and Mary.

I'm a little worried since I'm just an average math major coming from a small liberal arts college, but if I don't get in anywhere I guess I'll try to get some research here and if that fails... back to working at denny's? :gulp:

I have also already applied to SMALL, and also planning on applying to REU Penn State.

From what I've heard, SMALL is supposed to be not that easy to get in. I got rejected last year, but i didn't have many math classes under my belt at that time (I have 3 more upper division, and two lower division math classes now), and much stronger references too, so I am hoping things will change this year.

Good luck to you!
 
  • #86
EbolaPox said:
I was in the Matrix and Wavelets analysis group at A&M in Summer 2009. It was a lot of fun, but be prepared to do a good amount of work. It can be quite independent also, so you can be free to work on whatever you want. It's a great experience, and if you work hard enough, you can get a paper out of it. I highly recommend getting the book Frames for Undergraduates and start reading that as soon as possible. That will help give you some ideas for projects also.

Wow, thanks SO much for the info!

A&M is definitely high up on my "I'd like to go there"-list, so I'm seriously considering attending this one. I'd like to see what happens with Cornell, Connecticut and Nebraska though. However, I'd expect these schools to start dealing out acceptances in March and I have to let A&M know by March 5th. Uh oh.

That, and by all appearances it looks like every math-major in the country has applied to Cornell so I'd say my chances are slim there.

So, do I pass up a sure thing for a shot at one of the other REUs? I suspect this is a common question that many REU alums had wrestled with during applications.
 
  • #87
sutupidmath said:
Has anyone heard back from SMALL REU at Williams Colleges? Their deadline was also February 10, and I've been told that they are already in the process of making final decisions, but i am not aware whether they have started sending out their offers to their top candidates or not

I got into both SMALL at Williams for Knot Theory and Texas A&M for Matrix Analysis and Wavelet Theory. I have not heard from anywhere else, since all the other places I applied to, the deadline is either later this month or in march. However, I decided to accept the offer at Williams and will be emailing the other programs about withdrawing my application.

Anyone else going to Williams?
 
  • #88
union68 said:
Just got an offer from Texas A&M. If anybody else applied, they're apparently sending out their first round offers.

Congratulations, I know the head of the program and he's just a great guy all around and so are the others involved. You'll enjoy it I'm sure. And word to the wise: since you'll be living here this summer, Antonio's Pizza is the best around. That said, I'm quite jealous of all the people getting offers already. The deadline for applications for every place I applied isn't for about another week so that means another 2-3 until I hear back.
 
  • #89
mc15 said:
I got into both SMALL at Williams for Knot Theory and Texas A&M for Matrix Analysis and Wavelet Theory. I have not heard from anywhere else, since all the other places I applied to, the deadline is either later this month or in march. However, I decided to accept the offer at Williams and will be emailing the other programs about withdrawing my application.

Anyone else going to Williams?

MC15, congratulations! What math background qualified you for that position?
 
  • #90
I would also like to know what your background looks like, I also applied to SMALL, but I didn't have much hope of getting in.

I wish I knew whether or not I'll get into any of these programs, it'll be pretty frustrating to put all of this effort into applying only to wind up back at square 1.

Oh, and congratulations, it sounds like you'll have a pretty good summer :)
 

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