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Or, at least, that he didn't possesses good intelligence prior to the Iraqi war:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/14/bush.iraq/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/14/bush.iraq/index.html
George Bush's Admission of Low Intelligence Prior to Iraqi War | CNN Politics
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The discussion centers around George Bush's perceived intelligence and decision-making regarding the Iraqi war, including references to public statements and opinions about his leadership and the intelligence available at the time. The scope includes political commentary, personal opinions, and reflections on historical events.
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Main Points Raised
- Some participants suggest that Bush's admission of lacking good intelligence prior to the Iraqi war reflects a broader issue of his intelligence overall.
- Others argue that a partial admission is better than none, indicating a belief that acknowledgment of shortcomings is a step forward.
- A participant references Nancy Pelosi's comments about Bush lacking military intelligence, noting the distinction she felt necessary to make.
- One participant expresses skepticism about Bush's claims of seeking advice and suggests that the desire to invade Iraq existed prior to 9/11, questioning the validity of the intelligence used to justify the war.
- Another participant cites Clinton's autobiography to illustrate that Bush viewed Iraq as a significant threat before 9/11, implying a pre-existing agenda to attack Iraq.
- Several participants share links to video clips, indicating interest in additional perspectives or evidence related to the discussion.
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Participants express a range of opinions about Bush's intelligence and decision-making, with no clear consensus on the validity of his claims or the motivations behind the war. Disagreement exists regarding the interpretation of his actions and statements.
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Participants reference various sources and personal opinions, but there are no settled conclusions regarding the implications of Bush's intelligence or the decisions made during the Iraqi war.
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Astronuc
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He never did, and still doesn't.
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A partial admission of it is better than none, though..Astronuc said:He never did, and still doesn't.
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Nancy Pelosi was on the Daily Show last week.
She said that Bush didn't have the intelligence to make a decision about Iraq... and hastily amended that he didn't have the *military* intelligence. The fact that she clarified that - and it wasn't for a laugh but because she felt the need to make the distinction - well, it's just plain funny. And sad.
She said that Bush didn't have the intelligence to make a decision about Iraq... and hastily amended that he didn't have the *military* intelligence. The fact that she clarified that - and it wasn't for a laugh but because she felt the need to make the distinction - well, it's just plain funny. And sad.
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LOL..
Baby steps... maybe one day he will fully admit his lack of intelegence...
Baby steps... maybe one day he will fully admit his lack of intelegence...
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I believe my dislike for Bush is well known, but in all fairness I felt his presentation in his interview with Brian Williams was decent (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10439994/). But in general, he claims he sought a great deal of advice (from both sides of the aisle), and that everyone believed there were WMD, and that he pondered long and hard about taking our country into war. Yet he says if he had the decision to make again-knowing what we know now-he would make the same decision. What does that tell you? Clearly the desire to invade Iraq already existed before 9-11, and the so-called intelligence is not the basis for the decision anymore than listening to advice from others (rrriight).
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In Clinton's autobiography he wrote about the handover meetings he had with Bush during the presidential transition period. On the subject of foreign threats Clinton gave Bush a list with Al Qaeda at the top followed by countries such as N. Korea with Iraq down in around 6th place. Bush responded saying as far as he was concerned Iraq was the biggest threat and ended the discussion.
Thus it appears long before 9/11 Bush wanted to attack Iraq and 9/11 gave him the opportunity to fabricate evidence to gain support.
Thus it appears long before 9/11 Bush wanted to attack Iraq and 9/11 gave him the opportunity to fabricate evidence to gain support.
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doctor knowit
ever see this video clip?
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Interesting...that's all i can say...well i guess i "could" say more
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Interesting...that's all i can say...well i guess i "could" say more
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What would be interesting is to see the video that the FBI confiscated.doctor knowit said:
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