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The discussion revolves around evaluating the integral of the function cos(2πx) from 0 to 1/2, with a focus on understanding the area under the curve and the implications of positive and negative values of the function within that interval.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the integral and question the interpretation of the area under the curve, particularly regarding the contributions of regions above and below the x-axis. There are inquiries about how to properly account for these areas when calculating the total area.

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Several participants have provided insights into the nature of the integral and the conditions under which it represents area. There is an ongoing exploration of how to set up the integral correctly to reflect the areas above and below the x-axis, with suggestions to graph the function for better understanding.

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Participants note the importance of distinguishing between positive and negative contributions to the area and the need to integrate regions separately. There is also mention of visual aids, such as graphs, to assist in understanding the problem setup.

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I set my Integral as ∫cos2π dx from 0 to 1/2 and get an answer of 0, which is incorrect.

The correct answer is 1/π, but I don't understand why etc.
 

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student93 said:

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I set my Integral as ∫cos2π dx from 0 to 1/2 and get an answer of 0, which is incorrect.

The correct answer is 1/π, but I don't understand why etc.

If you mean the integral of cos(2πx) from x=0 to x=1/2, then I think the answer is 0. But part of that area is above the x-axis and part is below. I think they want you to add them. Just doing the integral will subtract them.
 
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Dick said:
If you mean the integral of cos(2πx) from x=0 to x=1/2, then I think the answer is 0. But part of that area is above the x-axis and part is below. I think they want you to add them. Just doing the integral will subtract them.

How exactly would I add them, what method should I use etc.?
 
student93 said:
How exactly would I add them, what method should I use etc.?

Graph the function from x= 0 to x=1/2, and see what Dick means.
 
@student93: Remember that ##\int_a^bf(x)~dx## is the area under the graph of ##y=f(x)## if ##f(x)\ge 0##. The more general form is $$
\text{Area} = \int_a^b y_{upper} - y_{lower}~dx$$The first formula above works because ##y_{upper} = f(x)## and ##y_{lower} = 0## when you are finding the area under a nonnegative function and above the ##x## axis. Do you see why ##\int_0^{\frac 1 2} \cos(2\pi x)~dx## isn't in the form ##y_{upper}-y_{lower}## in the integrand?
 
LCKurtz said:
@student93: Remember that ##\int_a^bf(x)~dx## is the area under the graph of ##y=f(x)## if ##f(x)\ge 0##. The more general form is $$
\text{Area} = \int_a^b y_{upper} - y_{lower}~dx$$The first formula above works because ##y_{upper} = f(x)## and ##y_{lower} = 0## when you are finding the area under a nonnegative function and above the ##x## axis. Do you see why ##\int_0^{\frac 1 2} \cos(2\pi x)~dx## isn't in the form ##y_{upper}-y_{lower}## in the integrand?

Yes, but then how do I find the area? I'm having trouble setting up an integral that works etc.
 
student93 said:
Yes, but then how do I find the area? I'm having trouble setting up an integral that works etc.

In the interval [0,1/2], where is cos(2*pi*x) positive and where is it negative? Integrate the regions separately and then think how to combine the numbers.
 
The shape is bounded also by the x axis. See picture. Imagine you have to paint the blue area on a wall. You need 1 litre paint to 1 m^2. Calculate how much paint you need. Can you use negative amount of paint?

ehild
 

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student93 said:
Yes, but then how do I find the area? I'm having trouble setting up an integral that works etc.

Look at ehild's picture in post #8. Notice that ##y_{upper}## and ##y_{lower}## are two piece functions. Set up two integrals accordingly.
 

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