Getting all three degrees (B.Sc., Masters and PhD)from same University

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the acceptability and implications of obtaining all three degrees (B.Sc., Masters, and PhD) in Mathematics from the same university, particularly in the context of aspiring to become a Math professor. Participants explore personal experiences, institutional policies, and perceptions related to this educational path.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express that it is common for individuals to pursue all degrees at the same institution, citing examples from their own experiences and those of professors.
  • Concerns are raised about perceptions of candidates who obtain all degrees from one university, with some suggesting it may imply a lack of competitiveness in gaining admission elsewhere.
  • Participants share anecdotes indicating that students who remain at their undergraduate institution for graduate studies may not always be the strongest candidates.
  • One participant suggests checking departmental policies, as some math departments may have restrictions on admitting their own undergraduates into graduate programs.
  • Another viewpoint emphasizes that the quality of research potential and professional relationships may outweigh concerns about the university's reputation in hiring contexts.
  • There is a suggestion that broadening exposure to different research environments could enhance academic perspectives, although this is not universally agreed upon.
  • Some participants argue that the focus should be on personal learning and growth rather than external perceptions of degree paths.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether obtaining all degrees from the same university is advisable. Multiple competing views remain regarding the implications of this choice and its impact on future academic and professional opportunities.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying departmental policies on admissions, differing perceptions of candidates based on their educational backgrounds, and the subjective nature of academic and professional evaluations.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering graduate studies in Mathematics, academic advisors, and individuals interested in the hiring practices within academia and industry.

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If I honestly really like the University I am currently at, so I was wondering if it is acceptable to get all three degrees in Mathematics from this institution if I want to become a Math professor? Some of the professors in their department got all of their degrees from the same university, but it was outside of the United States. A couple of them went to the university I'm studying at, for their undergrad and masters, but another university for their PhD and came back to the university they went to for undergrad to teach. If I want to teach at the university I'm at, one day should I go somewhere else for my PhD?
 
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Most people go straight to PhD programs (no master's program after undergrad). My professor for inorganic chemistry at UCLA taught at UCLA and also got both his bachelor's and PhD from UCLA.
 
The impression that some may get is that you did not get in anywhere else and so your Bachelor's granting university did you a favor and let you stay aboard.

Personal anecdotes:

Several students at my undergrad institution who indeed did not get in anywhere else were permitted to stay aboard and do their PhD there.

In my current graduate institution, some of the weakest students were those who had stayed here from undergrad.

In addition to how others may perceive this, it is a good idea to broaden your exposure to research programs during your transition to graduate school.
 
Check with your department. Some math departments have a general policy of not accepting their own undergraduates into the graduate program. Others seem to be OK with it.
 
While what Zombie Feynman statement may be true, I've come to the conclusion that by the time you are finished with graduate school the people around you and you yourself will know your caliber while compared to your peers. If you have good potential for research and your adviser and those who know you on a professional level concur with that assessment, then I would really like to find the person who say'll "Man this guy is great, but too bad he got his PhD from his undergraduate university, toss his resume in the trash!"

The only reasonable argument I would make for going to a different university is the simple one. No one professor knows everything nor is do one group of professors work together the same. It is nice to be exposed and meet different people in your field to enhance your academic world view gather insight from a different group of people for a few years.

However, if you're content with your university, then, I personally do not find that a point against you.
 
I've been on quite a few hiring committee both in industry and in academia and I've never once heard "Wow, this candidate is great... too bad they got their Ph.D. at the same university as their BS though".
 
People ask the question "how does it look?" here all the time. I think that's the wrong question - I think the right question is "would I learn more by going somewhere else?" and for most people, I believe the answer is yes.
 

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