I Getting rid of nonlocality from quantum physics

  • #121
@PeroK

I merely want to point out that everyone has a story which is influenced by personal ideological beliefs. That's why I - as a working physicist - adopt an instrumentalist's point of view.
My personal story could be, for example: The mind is fundamental and the objects only exist as illusions in my mind. Neither your story nor my story can be proved or disproved by means of the scientific method.
 
  • Like
Likes vanhees71 and bhobba
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #122
Lord Jestocost said:
@PeroK

I merely want to point out that everyone has a story which is influenced by personal ideological beliefs. That's why I - as a working physicist - adopt an instrumentalist's point of view.
My personal story could be, for example: The mind is fundamental and the objects only exist as illusions in my mind. Neither your story nor my story can be proved or disproved by means of the scientific method.
This is why I rarely reply to posts in this sub-forum.

Whenever anyone is confronted with a hard question, they can retreat into an argument barely discernible from Zen Buddhism!

It seems to me a huge unnecessary burden on orthodox QM to explain how specific things (things with specific properties) come into existence, as opposed to other things with other properties. The simplest explanation is that something with the specific properties exists and measurements are compatible with that thing and those properties.

Explaining how properties can be not well-defined until measurement is bad enough. But, that the thing itself comes in and out of existence is asking too much, for no theoretical benefit that I can see.
 
  • Like
  • Love
Likes weirdoguy, vanhees71 and martinbn
  • #123
Lord Jestocost said:
@PeroK

I merely want to point out that everyone has a story which is influenced by personal ideological beliefs. That's why I - as a working physicist - adopt an instrumentalist's point of view.
My personal story could be, for example: The mind is fundamental and the objects only exist as illusions in my mind. Neither your story nor my story can be proved or disproved by means of the scientific method.
Read Becker’s book https://www.google.com/books/edition/What_Is_Real/X4QqDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover He makes a good case for the relevance of going beyond instrumentalism.
 
  • #124
The OP appears to be gone and the discussion seems to have covered every possible viewpoint. Thread closed.
 
  • Like
Likes Demystifier, vanhees71 and bhobba

Similar threads

  • · Replies 140 ·
5
Replies
140
Views
11K
  • · Replies 40 ·
2
Replies
40
Views
2K
Replies
32
Views
618
  • · Replies 37 ·
2
Replies
37
Views
6K
  • · Replies 226 ·
8
Replies
226
Views
23K
Replies
175
Views
12K
  • · Replies 54 ·
2
Replies
54
Views
6K
  • · Replies 48 ·
2
Replies
48
Views
4K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
9K