What is the momentum of a girl jumping into a boat?

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The discussion centers on the conservation of momentum in a system involving a girl jumping into a boat and a boy dropping into a cart. The initial momentum of the girl is calculated as 250 kg·m/s, while the boat starts at rest with 0 kg·m/s. Upon the girl entering the boat, the combined system's final velocity is determined to be 1.25 m/s. A similar calculation for a cart and a boy yields a final velocity of 2.6 m/s after the boy jumps in, demonstrating the application of momentum conservation principles in both scenarios.

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Homework Statement
A girl of mass ##m_{1} = 50## kg running with a velocity ##v_{1} = 5## m/s jumped into the boat of mass ##m_{2} = 150## kg. Determine a velocity ##v_{2}## at which a boat sailed away?
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##p = mv## and ##m_{1}v_{1} = m_{2}v_{2}## (I suppose)
Momentum of a girl:

$$p_{1} = m_{1}v_{1} = 50 * 5 = 250$$

Momentum of an idle boat:

$$p_{2} = m_{2}v_{2} = 150 * 0 = 0$$

So if the girl jumps into the boat, the two "systems" connect with each other. The momentum is passed onto the boat (?):

$$p_{1} = p_{2}$$

$$m_{1}v_{1} = m_{2}v_{2}$$

Substituting all known values:

$$250 = 150 v_{2}$$

$$v_{2} = \frac{5}{3} \quad \Big[ \frac{m}{s} \Big]$$

Does it look any good?
 
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Not really, you have to take into account that now the girl is in the boat, so in total, the mass is 50+150 kg.

The momentum at the beginning of the problem is ##p_i=m_1v_1+m_2v_2=50\text{kg}\cdot 5\text{ms}^{-1}=250\text{kgms}^{-1}##. Then at the end both, the girl and the boat will move with the same velocity ##v'_2##, so the momentum will be ##p_f=(m_1+m_2)v'_2##. By conservation of momentum you have:
$$p_i=250\text{kgms}^{-1}=(m_1+m_2)v'_2=200\text{kg}\cdot v'_2\Longrightarrow v'_2=\frac{250}{200}\text{ms}^{-1}=\frac{5}{4}\text{ms}^{-1}=1.25\text{ms}^{-1}$$
 
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Thank you. I have applied that logic to the following simple task:

A cart of mass ##m_{c} = 160## kg was running with a velocity (speed) ##v_{c} = 2## m/s. A boy of mass ##m_{b} = 40## kg catches up with him at velocity ##v_{b} = 5## m/s and drop-in. Determine the final velocity of cart with a boy.

Let:

- ##p_{i}## - initial momentum

- ##p_{f}## - final momentum, I assume equal to initial momentum?

- ##v^{'}_{c}## - velocity of a cart after the boy jumps in

Momentum at the beginning:

##p_{i} = m_{c}v_{c} + m_{b}v_{b} = 160 * 2 + 40 * 5 = 520 \frac{kgm}{s}##

After the boy drops-in:

##p_{i} = p_{f}##

##p_{f} = (m_{c} + m_{b})v^{'}_{c}##

##\frac{p_{f}}{m_{c} + m_{b}} = v^{'}_{c}##

##\frac{520}{160 + 40} = v^{'}_{c}##

##\frac{13}{5} = v^{'}_{c}##

Is this mistake-free?
 
Yes, I think it's perfect!
 
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Hi, I see those apostrophes after variables (ex. v') a lot on this website. Is anyone able to explain what it means? Thanks!
 
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Hi, I see those apostrophes after variables (ex. v') a lot on this website. Is anyone able to explain what it means? Thanks!
We simply use them to distinguish between two variables, so ##v'_2## is simply the velocity of the object 2. Since we have defined the velocity before and after we use de ' to distinguish. That's all.
 
Thanks I appreciate it.
 
NP04 said:
Hi, I see those apostrophes after variables (ex. v') a lot on this website. Is anyone able to explain what it means? Thanks!
It doesn’t always mean the same. In this thread it is being used just to create a name for a related variable. v is the initial velocity of one of the objects and v' is a later velocity of it.
In other contexts it might be used to indicate a derivative: if f(x)=x2 then f'(x)=2x etc.
 

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