Global Warming Debate: Refuting Common Arguments

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The discussion centers around skepticism of global warming, highlighting common arguments made by proponents of climate change. Key points include the belief that there is a global consensus on catastrophic man-made global warming, the misconception that melting ice caps will lead to immediate flooding, and the assertion that skeptics are funded by oil companies. Participants argue that while the polar caps are melting, this does not definitively prove human-caused warming, and that a mere 0.5-degree temperature increase is not catastrophic. The conversation emphasizes the need for critical examination of climate models and the historical context of temperature changes.
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Chalnoth said:
. I'm just not sure it's true. It doesn't actually make much sense given Bush's policies.
Much of the difference is simple technology advances and markets reacting to the energy prices - hybrid cars, better wind turbines, etc. Shale gas reserves discoveries depressing the price of natural gas allowing it to displace coal.

Regarding government policies and the major policies actually in place, causing change today (as opposed to what Obama say's he might do), I don't see that much difference:
- PTC. We had the energy production tax credit in place during Bush that pushed the US into becoming leading producer of wind generation in the world by '08, and is continuing to increase the lead.
- R&D. Obama has bumped energy research spending, but Bush was already several $B a year.
- Drilling. Bush / Congress talked up some offshore, but we never actually saw any (new).
- Nuclear. Down the road effects only. No current effect from either administration. Bush leaned in favor, Obama leaning against.
 
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