Grad school quality person - Chemistry

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the perceived importance of mastering weak acid and weak base equilibria for graduate school in chemistry. Participants explore whether struggles with this topic indicate a lack of readiness for graduate studies and how it relates to different fields within chemistry.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty mastering weak acid and weak base equilibria and questions if this affects their qualifications for graduate school in chemistry.
  • Another suggests taking the GRE in chemistry as a way to assess readiness.
  • A participant mentions their unique path to graduate school without a formal chemistry background, indicating that it is possible to enter graduate studies from other fields like physics or math.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of understanding acid-base chemistry concepts for graduate school, noting that while some PhDs in organic chemistry may not recall specific details like equilibrium constants, foundational knowledge is still valuable.
  • One participant argues that acid/base equilibrium is fundamental in analytical chemistry and suggests that mastering it is important for practical lab work.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the necessity of mastering weak acid and weak base equilibria for graduate school. Some participants argue it is essential, while others suggest its importance varies by specialization within chemistry.

Contextual Notes

Participants express differing views on the relevance of specific chemistry concepts depending on the field of study, indicating that the importance of mastering certain topics may be context-dependent.

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One of the most difficult topics several years ago was weak acid and weak base equilibria and associated mathematical determinations about them in quantitative chemistry. Our class spent a month and a half just studying equilibria of weak acids and weak bases and their buffers, pH's, titration curves, and all their calculations. This was so difficult that I could not master it. Since graduating, I restudied that stuff a few times and it became much more learnable. Still I have not mastered it.

I wonder; if I could not master equilibria of weak acids and weak bases, does this mean that I would not be graduate school quality for studying Chemistry? Or is this relatively unimportant?
 
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I'm going to graduate school for chemistry without ever taking a chemistry class (physics/math major)...but I did an REU at that university in the the chem dept.

Probably not typical, but it's possible. Probably going to be doing theoretical chemistry/physical chem, fwiw
 
You should definitely know the concepts of acid base chemistry if you want to go to grad school. As for dissociation constants, equilibrium constants, etc. I know plenty of Organic Phds who don't remember any of that stuff. It all depends on what field you want to specialize in. In my 4 years of industry, I have yet to see 1 phd organic chemist actually care about equilibrium constants etc. beyond lechatlier's principle.
 
Acid/Base equilibrium is basic analytical chemistry and very important in the lab, you might want to master it. Its very intuitive and requires very basic algebra.
 
gravenewworld said:
You should definitely know the concepts of acid base chemistry if you want to go to grad school. As for dissociation constants, equilibrium constants, etc. I know plenty of Organic Phds who don't remember any of that stuff. It all depends on what field you want to specialize in. In my 4 years of industry, I have yet to see 1 phd organic chemist actually care about equilibrium constants etc. beyond lechatlier's principle.

I second that...
 

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