Gradient Vector is Orthogonal to the Level Curve

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The discussion focuses on verifying that the gradient vector ∇f is orthogonal to the level curve of the function f(x,y) = arctan(x/y) at a point P where y = mx. Participants express confusion about the concepts of level curves and tangent vectors, with one clarifying that level curves represent the function set equal to a constant k. The relationship between the directional derivative and the gradient is emphasized, stating that the directional derivative is zero if the direction is perpendicular to the gradient. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of understanding these concepts to solve related problems effectively.
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Homework Statement


Let f(x,y)=arctan(x/y) and u={(√2)/2,(√2)/2}
d.) Verify that ∇fp is orthogonal to the level curve through P for P=(x,y)≠(0,0) where y=mx for m≠0 are level curves for f.

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The Attempt at a Solution


∇f={(y)/(x^2+y^2),(-y)/(x^2+y^2)}
m=1/tan(k) where k=f(x,y) and tan(k)≠0
I'm stuck and very confused. The homework is doomed and turned in, but I still really want to understand how to think about problems like this one. Any help is appreciated.
 
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What is the tangent vector of the level curve? What is the requirement to be orthogonal to the level curve?
 
Orodruin said:
What is the tangent vector of the level curve? What is the requirement to be orthogonal to the level curve?
See that's the thing. I know this is a simple question, but I'm having a total blank. Thank you for your help and I understand if you can't show me more.
 
Uhh, do know what a level curve is?
 
HallsofIvy said:
Uhh, do know what a level curve is?
I think I do. Its the function f (x,y) equal to some constant, say k. Maybe this is right, maybe not. But when k=f (x,y), k=arctan (x/y) or y=x/(tan (k)), right? So I believe it is the function set so that the set of x and y values must equal the value k. I don't know, thank you for your help.
 
Yes, but you really do not need to know what it is to solve this. You have already been told that the line y = mx is a level curve. This is a straight line. What is the tangent vector of a straight line? What is a tangent vector?
 
BennyT said:
I think I do. Its the function f (x,y) equal to some constant, say k. Maybe this is right, maybe not. But when k=f (x,y), k=arctan (x/y) or y=x/(tan (k)), right? So I believe it is the function set so that the set of x and y values must equal the value k. I don't know, thank you for your help.
You also should know that the directional derivative for f(x,y), in direction of unit vector \vec{u}, is \vec{u}\cdot \nabla f. In particular, that directional derivative is 0 if and only if \vec{u} is perpendicular to \nabla f. And, of course, since the function is constant on a level curve, the derivative along it (in its direction) is 0.
 
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