Finding level curves in relation to gradient vectors

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The discussion revolves around finding level curves of a differentiable function \( f: \mathbb{R}^2 - \{0\} \to \mathbb{R} \) whose gradient is nowhere zero and satisfies the equation \(-y\frac{df}{dx} + x\frac{df}{dy} = 0\). Participants explore the implications of this equation for the relationship between gradient vectors and level curves, as well as the existence of a differentiable function \( F \) related to \( f \).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the orthogonality of gradient vectors to level curves and question whether vectors of the form \((x, -y)\) represent the level curves. There is also consideration of how to define the function \( F \) in relation to \( f \) and the implications of the given equation for its existence.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes attempts to clarify the relationship between the gradient and level curves, with some participants affirming the connection. Questions remain about the notation and the definition of \( F \), indicating an ongoing exploration of the concepts involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential confusion regarding the notation used for \( f \) and its relationship to the vector \( (x, y) \) in the context of the problem. The discussion also highlights the need for clarity in defining the function \( F \) based on the properties of \( g(x) = \sqrt{x^2 + y^2} \).

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Homework Statement


Suppose f:R^2 - {0} → R is a differentiable function whose gradient is nowhere 0 and that satisfies -y(df/dx) + x(df/dy) = 0 everywhere.

a) find the level curves of f

b) Show that there is a differentiable function F defined on the set of positive real numbers so that f(x) = F(||x||)


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The Attempt at a Solution


a) I know that gradient vectors are orthogonal to level curves. So the fact that -y(df/dx) + x(df/dy) = 0 seems to show that the gradient vector is orthogonal to any vector of the form (x, -y). So would all vectors of this form be the level curves?

b)could I just show that F is a function that is the same as f but multiplies results that would be negative by -1?
 
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The1TL said:

Homework Statement


Suppose f:R^2 - {0} → R is a differentiable function whose gradient is nowhere 0 and that satisfies -y(df/dx) + x(df/dy) = 0 everywhere.

a) find the level curves of f

b) Show that there is a differentiable function F defined on the set of positive real numbers so that f(x) = F(||x||)


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


a) I know that gradient vectors are orthogonal to level curves. So the fact that -y(df/dx) + x(df/dy) = 0 seems to show that the gradient vector is orthogonal to any vector of the form (x, -y). So would all vectors of this form be the level curves?
Yes, that's exactly what it means. And that, in turn, means that dy/dx= -y/x.

b)could I just show that F is a function that is the same as f but multiplies results that would be negative by -1?
I think the (poor) notation is confusing you. f is a function on R2 so f(x) makes no sense if x is a number. While x and y are numerical values in (a), the fact that f is defined on R2 and the use of ||x||, rather than |x|, makes me think that, here, x is the vector in R2 which woud be (x, y) in terms of (a).
 
oh ok, so for b) is there some way that I could show that F exists based on the -y(df/dx) + x(df/dy) = 0 equation?
Or would it simply involve turning sqrt(x^2 + y^2) into an R^2 vector?
 
actually, I've noticed that the function g(x) = sqrt(x^2 + y^2) has the property that -y(df/dx) + x(df/dy) = 0. Therefore I could let F be h(g(x)) where h is the identity function.
 

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