Gradient vector property proofs

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The discussion revolves around proving properties of the gradient vector operation applied to differentiable functions. Participants are tasked with demonstrating specific gradient properties involving functions u and v, as well as powers of u.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to apply the quotient rule for gradients and express the gradient of products. Questions arise regarding the application of the gradient to powers of functions and the use of induction for proof.

Discussion Status

Some participants have shared their attempts at applying the quotient rule and expressed uncertainty about the second property involving powers. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of induction for proving the second property, with a suggestion to establish a base case.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that u and v are differentiable functions, and there is a focus on proving properties without providing complete solutions. The discussion includes a tacit understanding that n is a positive integer for the second property.

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Homework Statement


Show that the operation of taking the gradient of a function has the given property. Assume that u and v are differentiable functions of x and y and that a, b are constants.


Homework Equations


Δ = gradient vector

1) Δ(u/v) = vΔu - uΔv / v^2

2) Δu^n = nu^(n-1)Δu


The Attempt at a Solution


I tried taking the partial derivative of (u/v) and separating the terms but I didn't get the ending result.

For 2, I don't even know where to begin because it is an exponent.
 
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fastXattack said:

Homework Statement


Show that the operation of taking the gradient of a function has the given property. Assume that u and v are differentiable functions of x and y and that a, b are constants.


Homework Equations


Δ = gradient vector

1) Δ(u/v) = vΔu - uΔv / v^2

2) Δu^n = nu^(n-1)Δu


The Attempt at a Solution


I tried taking the partial derivative of (u/v) and separating the terms but I didn't get the ending result.

For 2, I don't even know where to begin because it is an exponent.
Let's try a simpler problem:
[tex]\nabla(uv) = v\nabla{u} + u\nabla{v}[/tex]

[tex]\nabla(uv) = <\frac{\partial (uv)}{\partial x}, \frac{\partial (uv)}{\partial y}>[/tex]
[tex]= <u\frac{\partial v}{\partial x} + v\frac{\partial u}{\partial x}, u\frac{\partial v}{\partial y} + v\frac{\partial u}{\partial y}>[/tex]
[tex]= u< \frac{\partial v}{\partial x}, \frac{\partial v}{\partial y}> + v< \frac{\partial u}{\partial x}, \frac{\partial u}{\partial y} > = u\nabla{v} + v\nabla{u}[/tex]
 
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I was given that problem for homework as well and I was able to do that one. I have an idea on how to do the quotient rule one, but no idea for the second question.
 
If (2) is to be done for n a positive integer, use induction on n.
 
This is my attempt at the quotient rule proof. Did I do the correct thing for this problem at least? I'm still unsure how to do the second question...
 

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Yes, that looks fine although the second line is difficult to read.

For the other problem, use induction (the tacit assumption is that n is a positive integer). The base case is easy to establish.
[tex]\nabla u^1 = \nabla u = 1 \nabla u[/tex]

Now assume that for n = k,
[tex]\nabla u^k = k \nabla u^{k - 1}[/tex]

To complete the proof, show that for n = k + 1
[tex]\nabla u^{k + 1} = (k + 1) \nabla u^k[/tex]
 

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