Gravatational Field Strength problem (Grade 12 physics)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the gravitational field strength on an unknown planet, given that its mass and radius are both doubled. The initial gravitational field strength is provided as 15.5 N/kg.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of doubling both the mass and radius on the gravitational field strength. Questions arise regarding the effects of these changes on the formula for gravitational field strength.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, discussing the relationships between mass, radius, and gravitational field strength. Some have provided insights into the mathematical relationships involved, while others are seeking clarification on specific steps in the reasoning process.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on using variation and ratios to understand how changes in mass and radius affect gravitational field strength. Participants are also questioning their assumptions and calculations throughout the discussion.

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Homework Statement


The gravitational field strength of an unknown planet is 15.5 N/kg on its surface. Calculate the value of “g” if the planets mass and radius were both doubled. Hint: Use variation.


Homework Equations


g= GM /R2


The Attempt at a Solution



Well my teacher gave a hint saying use variation so this was my attempt at it:

M / 2M = R2 / 2R2

Now this is where i kind of get stuck. If I simplify M, i am left with:

1/2 = R2 / 2R2

I don't now what i should do next or if i am even on the right track...

Thanks in advanced!
 
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axxon said:

Homework Statement


The gravitational field strength of an unknown planet is 15.5 N/kg on its surface. Calculate the value of “g” if the planets mass and radius were both doubled. Hint: Use variation.


Homework Equations


g= GM /R2


The Attempt at a Solution



Well my teacher gave a hint saying use variation so this was my attempt at it:

M / 2M = R2 / 2R2

Are you sure that this is correct? If you double R, how much does R2 change by?
 
it would be 4R wouldn't it?
 
axxon said:
it would be 4R wouldn't it?
Indeed it would. So now you have a simple ratio question. Doubling the radius divides g by 4, doubling the mass doubles g, so the overall effect on g is ...?
 
Hootenanny said:
Indeed it would. So now you have a simple ratio question. Doubling the radius divides g by 4, doubling the mass doubles g, so the overall effect on g is ...?

But how does doubling the radius dividing g by four and same with mass?


I can see that it would be 1/2 of g or g under these conditions would be 15.5 (1/2) = 7.75 N/kg
 
axxon said:
But how does doubling the radius dividing g by four and same with mass?
Okay, let's take it step by step.

You are given that the acceleration due to gravity on the surface of a planet with radius r=r0 and mass m = m0 is g=15.5 N/kg. In other words, you know that

15.5 = \frac{Gm_0}{r_0^2}

Now, you are asked to determine the value of g if the radius of the planet was r=2r0 and it's mass was m=2m0. That is if both the radius and the mass are doubled. So using Newton's law of gravitation,

\begin{aligned}<br /> g &amp; = \frac{G\left(2m_0\right)}{\left(2r_0\right)^2}\\<br /> &amp; = \frac{2}{4}\underbrace{\frac{G m_0}{r_0^2}}_{15.5}\\<br /> &amp; = \frac{1}{2}15.5\\<br /> g &amp; = 7.25 \;N/kg<br /> \end{aligned}

Do you follow?

axxon said:
I can see that it would be 1/2 of g
Correct!
axxon said:
g under these conditions would be 15.5 (1/2) = 7.75 N/kg
You might to recheck the final bit :wink:
 
OHH! That makes it muchh more clear! Thanks a bunch!
 
axxon said:
OHH! That makes it muchh more clear! Thanks a bunch!
A pleasure :smile:
 

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