Gravitational Acceleration of Pendulum

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The discussion revolves around determining gravitational acceleration using the period of a pendulum in an IB Physics SL lab report. The original poster is attempting to apply the formula T=2∏√(l/g) but is encountering issues with their calculations and the resulting units.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are examining the algebraic manipulation of the pendulum period formula and questioning the correctness of the original poster's calculations. There is a focus on unit consistency and the interpretation of the slope derived from the graph of period versus length.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance by suggesting the original poster share their detailed calculations and data. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the period and length of the pendulum, with some participants noting potential systematic errors in the data.

Contextual Notes

The original poster's data includes multiple trials for various lengths and periods, and there is a mention of the need to compare their results with established graphs to identify discrepancies. The discussion also touches on the challenges of linearizing the data and the implications of the results obtained from different approaches.

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I am doing a lab report for IB Physics SL and I am supposed to use the slope of the period of a pendulum graphed against the length to find gravitational acceleration. I am trying to use the equation T=2∏√(l/g) but I'm not getting the right answer when I solve for g. (the answer is in s^2/m which obviously is wrong. I'm probably making a stupid mistake, so any help would be nice. Thanks.
 
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twsp1996 said:
I am doing a lab report for IB Physics SL and I am supposed to use the slope of the period of a pendulum graphed against the length to find gravitational acceleration. I am trying to use the equation T=2∏√(l/g) but I'm not getting the right answer when I solve for g. (the answer is in s^2/m which obviously is wrong. I'm probably making a stupid mistake, so any help would be nice. Thanks.

Welcome to the PF.

Can you show your work in detail? It's probably just a simple algebra mistake. Good job checking the units, BTW. That's a good way to look for mistakes... :smile:
 
berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF.

Can you show your work in detail? It's probably just a simple algebra mistake. Good job checking the units, BTW. That's a good way to look for mistakes... :smile:

Sure, my slope was .0135 s/cm or 1.35 s/m.

I then plugged in 1.35 for T and 1 for l (this may be the completely wrong way of approaching this, but I thought it made sense).

So my equation looked like this:

1.35s = 2∏√(1m/g) and as I'm typing this I realized what I did wrong haha
so that becomes
.0462s^2 = 1/g and this is where I accidentally forgot it was 1/g and not g.

But even then, this solves to g = 21.65 m/s^2 which isn't right, is it? I would think the answer should be 9.8 m/s^2, so something is wrong or I had some massive error in my experiment.
 
twsp1996 said:
Sure, my slope was .0135 s/cm or 1.35 s/m.

I then plugged in 1.35 for T and 1 for l (this may be the completely wrong way of approaching this, but I thought it made sense).

So my equation looked like this:

1.35s = 2∏√(1m/g) and as I'm typing this I realized what I did wrong haha
so that becomes
.0462s^2 = 1/g and this is where I accidentally forgot it was 1/g and not g.

But even then, this solves to g = 21.65 m/s^2 which isn't right, is it? I would think the answer should be 9.8 m/s^2, so something is wrong or I had some massive error in my experiment.

Can you post your data?
 
berkeman said:
Can you post your data?

Length | Period

15.5 | 1.03
28.2 | 1.17
41.0 | 1.38
50.0 | 1.54
57.0 | 1.67
67.5 | 1.75
79.1 | 1.89
94.7 | 2.07

Length is in cm and period is in seconds. (These are also averages of eight different trials for each length)

The slope of the best fit line, like I said, is .0135 s/m
 
twsp1996 said:
Length | Period

15.5 | 1.03
28.2 | 1.17
41.0 | 1.38
50.0 | 1.54
57.0 | 1.67
67.5 | 1.75
79.1 | 1.89
94.7 | 2.07

Length is in cm and period is in seconds. (These are also averages of eight different trials for each length)

The slope of the best fit line, like I said, is .0135 s/m

How do your data compare to these other graphs?

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en...4.0...0...1ac.1.32.img..5.19.1247.8_g03pcRNS8

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twsp1996 said:
It's fairly similar, but definitely linear, unlike most of those slightly curved graphs. I've tried adjusting it, but there is no way of linearizing it, as everything I've done results in a smaller r and r^2 value.

If you do the calculation using the data from one of those graphs, what do you get for g? If you get the right answer using those example graphs, and not the right answer using your data, then that would imply that there was something causing errors in your data. This is a lab report, so it's okay (usually) to say that you see there is a problem with the data, and then make some intelligent guesses at what the source of the errors could be...
 
berkeman said:
If you do the calculation using the data from one of those graphs, what do you get for g? If you get the right answer using those example graphs, and not the right answer using your data, then that would imply that there was something causing errors in your data. This is a lab report, so it's okay (usually) to say that you see there is a problem with the data, and then make some intelligent guesses at what the source of the errors could be...

It's hard to get the slope of some of the graphs, but I used one and got around 18 m/s^2, which is not ridiculously far off from my answer. However, shouldn't the answer be 9.8 m/s^2? That is the gravitational acceleration constant, right?
 
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If you plot T versus √L you should get a straight line...
 
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T and ##l## aren't related linearly. You have
$$T = \frac{2\pi}{\sqrt g} \sqrt{l},$$ so as Berkeman noted, it's T and ##\sqrt{l}## that are related linearly, with the slope corresponding to ##2\pi/\sqrt{g}##. I tend to avoid radicals, so I'd square the equation to get
$$T^2 = \frac{4\pi^2}{g} l$$ and plot appropriately.

By the way, depending on how I fit your data, I got 9.5 m/s^2 or 8.5 m/s^2 for ##g##. It looks like there's a bit of systematic error in your data that you need to attempt to explain.
 
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