Gravitational potential energy of a retaining wall

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The discussion revolves around calculating the gravitational potential energy of a retaining wall constructed from blocks. The problem involves determining the mass and height of the wall to apply the gravitational potential energy formula.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the calculation of total mass and height, questioning the correct height to use for the center of mass. There is discussion about whether to consider the average height of the blocks and how the arrangement affects potential energy.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about the center of mass and the assumptions made regarding the height of the blocks. Some calculations have been shared, but there is no consensus on the correct approach or final answer yet.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the height of the center of mass, with suggestions that it may be 0.3m or 0.4m. Additionally, there is a mention of differing values for gravitational acceleration, which may affect the calculations.

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Homework Statement


Forty 2.0kg blocks 20.0cm thick are used to make a retaining wall in the backyard. Each row of the wall will contain 10 blocks. You may assume that the first block is placed at the reference level. How much gravitational potential energy is stored in the wall when the blocks are set in place.

Homework Equations


Eg=mgh

The Attempt at a Solution


To find m (mass):
(40)(2.0kg) = 80kg
To find height (h):
20.0cm = 0.2m
(0.2m)(4)= 0.8m I used 4 because the wall will be four rows high.
Final...
Eg= (80)(0.8)(9.8)
= 627 J
The answer in my book says 240J

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You need to use the location of the center of mass of the wall, not its total height.
 
What is the location of the center of mass ?
Is it 0.3m or 0.4m ?
 
Orodruin said:
You need to use the location of the center of mass of the wall, not its total height.
so...
Eg=(80kg)(0.4m)(9.8)
= 313.6 J
Im still not getting the answer which is 240J.

Can you please show your calculations? It would be really helpful!
 
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Is the centre of mass really at 0.4 m? Remember that the bottom layer is placed in such a way that it does not have potential energy. Also, I very much suspect the answer is using g ≈ 10 m/s2.
 
Orodruin said:
Is the centre of mass really at 0.4 m? Remember that the bottom layer is placed in such a way that it does not have potential energy. Also, I very much suspect the answer is using g ≈ 10 m/s2.
I believe the height is 0.3m but when I do the calculations, I am still not getting the answer.

Eg= (60kg)(0.3)(9.8)
= 176.4 J
 
Nithya115 said:
Eg= (60kg)...
The 0.3m is an average over all blocks, so you must count all the blocks in the mass.
 

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