Gravitational Wave Discovery & Einsteinian Gravity: What's the Connection?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the connection between the recent discovery of gravitational waves by LIGO and Einstein's gravitational model. Participants explore the implications of general relativity, the nature of gravitational waves, and the concept of gravitons, focusing on theoretical underpinnings and interpretations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how gravitational waves relate to Einstein's model of gravity, which describes gravity as the warping of spacetime without the need for force-carrying particles.
  • Another participant clarifies that gravitons are hypothetical and not part of general relativity, emphasizing that gravitational waves are derived from the solutions to the Einstein Field Equations under specific conditions.
  • A participant requests resources for understanding the conditions and solutions related to gravitational waves, indicating a lack of advanced mathematical background.
  • A suggestion is made to refer to a Wikipedia article on gravitational waves as a starting point for further reading.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the connection between gravitational waves and Einstein's model, and there are varying levels of understanding and expertise among them. The discussion remains open-ended with multiple viewpoints presented.

Contextual Notes

Some participants acknowledge limitations in their mathematical knowledge, which may affect their understanding of the theoretical aspects discussed.

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Hi Everyone, my first post here.

I'm really confused by the comments around the recent LIGO gravitational waves discovery and how it connects to Einsteins gravitational model. My understanding is that he said a body warped spacetime around it forming a gravitational well into which other bodies would 'fall into'. This relies entirely on the topography of spacetime with no force carrying particles or waves needed for this model.

Can anyone explain please?

Thanks!
 
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Gravitons are hypothetical particles that appear in some unconfirmed quantum mechanical theories of gravity. They are no part of general relativity (Einstein's theory of gravity) so they are neither required nor precluded by it.

Gravitational waves aren't required by general relativity either - it's the other way around. You write down the equations of general relativity (the Einstein Field Equations), you solve them, and under certain conditions one of the solutions is gravitational waves.
 
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Thanks Nugatory. Having no higher maths at all I won't be solving any of those equations soon. Could you point me to anywhere where I could read an abstract of the conditions and/or solutions you mention?

Thanks. :smile:
 
Thanks very much Drakkith.
 

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