Gravitational Wave: Does Vibrating Mass Emit Waves?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of whether vibrating masses can emit gravitational waves, similar to how vibrating charges emit electromagnetic waves. It includes theoretical considerations, experimental efforts, and the challenges associated with detecting such waves.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that vibrating masses can produce gravitational waves, although this has not been experimentally confirmed.
  • Others mention ongoing experiments using Michelson-Morley style interferometers aimed at detecting spacetime distortions from supernovae, emphasizing the difficulty due to the weak nature of gravitational forces.
  • It is noted that gravitational waves are extremely weak and might only be detectable from strong gravitational fields, with specific systems like closely orbiting pulsars and colliding neutron stars/black holes suggested as potential sources.
  • One participant highlights that systems retaining spherical symmetry, such as certain types of stars, do not produce detectable gravitational waves.
  • Links to relevant experiments are provided, indicating ongoing research in the field.
  • There is excitement about the potential for future detections, with expectations that LIGO and LISA could lead to significant advancements in astronomy.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of theoretical support for the idea that vibrating masses can emit gravitational waves, while acknowledging the lack of experimental evidence and the challenges involved in detection. There is no consensus on the feasibility or implications of these waves being produced.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations related to the detection of gravitational waves, including the dependence on specific astronomical events and the conditions under which gravitational waves may or may not be produced.

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Vibrating charges emits electromagnetic waves. Does any vibrating mass is capable of producing wave (that can be called graviational wave)?
 
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Theory says, yes... it has not yet been observed experimentally.
 
There are experiments going on at the moment - pointing michelson-morley style interferometers at supernovae and trying to detect the spacetime distortions (supposedly) given off. Because the gravitational force is actually incredibly weak, these are very difficult to see - hence the supernova-as-a-subject requirement; nothing else is powerful enough.
 
Gravitational waves are incredibly weak (OOM 10-40 em waves) and might be detectable but only from the strongest gravitational fields.

Note that if the system retains spherical symmetry, such as in a Cepheid Variable star that oscillates in diameter, or a supernova that explodes more or less symmetrically, gravitational waves are not produced.

Systems that should produce detectable gravitational waves are closely orbiting pulsars PSR J0737-3039A/B and colliding neutron stars/black holes such as those that are thought to be a possible source of short GRBs. As Integral said none have yet been detected.

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This is quite an exciting field: If astronomical source estimates are correct, LIGO is now approaching the sensitivity where there is a real chance of them making a detection anytime in the next "year or several" -- and whenever LISA launches, it should be swamped with signal (interferometers work like omnidirectional microphones). With any luck there will exist a completely new branch of astronomy within a couple decades.
 

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