Gravitational Waves: Prevalence Across the Universe

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The discussion revolves around the prevalence of gravitational waves detected by LIGO and similar detectors across the universe. Participants explore the frequency of these waves and their sources, considering both theoretical implications and observational data.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that gravitational waves of the magnitude currently detected by LIGO are prevalent enough to suggest that no location in the universe is free from such waves passing through several times a year.
  • Others question how one could definitively know the prevalence of these waves across different locations in the universe.
  • One participant notes that LIGO's detections suggest a rate of one event every two months, with potential increases in detection rates as sensitivity improves, indicating that these events may be relatively common.
  • Another participant highlights that all known LIGO detections originate from distant extragalactic sources, suggesting that gravitational waves are not significantly attenuated by distance, which could imply a uniform detection rate across different regions of space.
  • It is mentioned that with only 11 confirmed detections, there is insufficient statistical evidence to support a concentration of gravitational wave events in the Milky Way compared to intergalactic space.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the prevalence and distribution of gravitational waves, with no consensus reached on the implications of LIGO's detection data.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the uniformity of gravitational wave events across space and the limitations of current detection capabilities. The implications of LIGO's detection statistics are also noted as potentially incomplete.

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Would it be correct to say, that gravitational waves of the magnitude that is currently detected by LIGO and similar detectors, are prevalent to the extent that there is no single location in the known universe, that such magnitude of gravitational waves, don't pass through at least several times a year?
 
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How would we know one way or the other?
 
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roineust said:
Would it be correct to say, that gravitational waves of the magnitude that is currently detected by LIGO and similar detectors, are prevalent to the extent that there is no single location in the known universe, that such magnitude of gravitational waves, don't pass through at least several times a year?
We are a single point in the Universe. How many events per year does LIGO report with high confidence?
 
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LIGO lists its detections by year
https://www.ligo.caltech.edu/page/detection-companion-papers

https://www.ligo.caltech.edu/page/faq
"On average, over its first two observing runs, LIGO's detections have been made at a rate of one every 2 months, and this is before we reach so-called "design sensitivity" (which we expect to reach in 2020). The eleven confirmed detections made so far suggest that these kinds of events are relatively common. Once LIGO's detectors reach their maximum sensitivity, they could be detecting gravitational waves at a rate of one per week. The only way to refine the estimates of how often detectable gravitational waves pass, is to keep making detections! "
 
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More importantly, all known Ligo detections appear to come from distant extragalactic sources (like gamma ray bursts).
Since gravitational waves are not heavily attenuated either by distance or by passing through galaxies, only by inverse square spreading, we can guess that an observer in our general vicinity, but in an intergalactic void, would still see roughly the same number of gravitational wave events.
With just 11 confirmed detections, there is no statistical evidence for concentration in Milky Way disc or away from it, and no such concentration is expected.
Note that if most observed gravitational waves came from Milky Way, observers in intergalactic space would see less. But as stated, this is not the case.
 
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