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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the properties of the graviton, particularly its spin, and how it interacts with other particles such as quarks and leptons. Participants explore concepts related to angular momentum conservation, bound states, and particle interactions, including scattering processes and composite particles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the implications of graviton spin being 2 and how it interacts with quarks or leptons, suggesting that such interactions would yield non-existent spin states (3/2 or 5/2).
  • Another participant clarifies that spins are only added in the context of bound states, which do not occur in all interactions.
  • There is a discussion about what constitutes a bound state, with examples like protons being composite particles formed from quarks.
  • Some participants assert that total angular momentum is conserved in interactions, with spin being one component, while others question the role of orbital angular momentum in specific particle collisions.
  • One participant claims that in certain interactions, such as electron or proton collisions, there may be no orbital angular momentum, leading to the conclusion that total angular momentum must equal spin angular momentum.
  • There is a debate over whether interactions can occur without an exchange of angular momentum, with differing opinions on the necessity of photon absorption in particle interactions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of graviton interactions or the implications of angular momentum conservation in these contexts. Multiple competing views remain regarding the role of spin and orbital angular momentum in particle interactions.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of understanding of quantum mechanics and related terminology, which may influence the clarity of the discussion. Some statements reflect assumptions about the nature of particle interactions that are not universally accepted.

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We know that graviton spin is 2 so other lepton and quarks spin is 1/2 I am confused because If Graviton and a quark or maybe a lepton make an interaction than the last spin must be 3/2 or 5/2 but there's no particle exist in this spin quantity.It means there's no particle called graviton or I don't know I am confused

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You only add spins if you have a particle which is the bound state of other particles. But not all kinds of interactions give bound states!
 
Whats bound state I googled but its hard to understand
 
I lookes there But I didnt undertsand I am 16 years old and I don't know QM. Its complicated and I don't know english very well.
 
Can you tell me more specific so you are trying to tell me there's a graviton but is not interact with other particles.
Or its interacts ?
 
OK. The point is, in some situations, the interaction is somehow that the particles are going to remain close to each other. In these situations, we say that they formed a bound state, a composite particle. Like a proton which is formed from two up quarks and one down quark.
But for some other situations, the particles just attract or repel each other for some time and then leave each other alone. These are called scattering processes or sometimes collisions.
 
I ask it because I read a book about particle phyiscs and the author said that spin is conserved its true or not ?
And thanks for explanation Thanks I understand it
 
Total angular momentum is conserved. Spin is one part, but the motion of particles can contribute to the angular momentum as well.

We know that graviton spin is 2
We know that if it exists, its spin has to be 2.

Yes a (hypothetical) graviton would interact with other particles.
 
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Quarlep said:
If Graviton and a quark or maybe a lepton make an interaction than the last spin must be 3/2 or 5/2

Why? A spin-1 photon can interact with a spin-0 alpha particle and it will remain a spin-0 alpha particle?
 
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As for the photon-alpha particle interactions, in case the alpha particle absorbs a photon, it's going to get excited and so will get orbital momentum to conserve the angular momentum. Is giving composite particles for this case good?
 
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mfb said:
Total angular momentum is conserved. Spin is one part, but the motion of particles can contribute to the angular momentum as well.

I learned that total angular momentum is conserved as indicated above.But I am confused here because total angular momentum is equal spin angular momentum plus orbital angular momentum. In particle interactions like two electron collusions or proton proton collusion every collusions or decays there's no orbital angular momentum(my idea) so I guess total angular momentum must be equal spin angular momentum because there's no orbital momentum so If graviton interects with another particle total angular momentum must be conserved so I claimed that its equal spin angular momentum.Its the reason why I said that graviton and other particle interactions result of spin is 3/2 or 5/2.
Am I wrong.
 
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ChrisVer said:
As for the photon-alpha particle interactions, in case the alpha particle absorbs a photon, it's going to get excited and so will get orbital momentum to conserve the angular momentum. Is giving composite particles for this case good?

Let's not complicate things when we explain things. It doesn't have to absorb the photon.
 
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if it doesn't absorb the photon then the alpha+gamma will give alpha+gamma
 
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Chris, you are not helping. What I am trying to get across is the idea that you can have an interaction with no exchange of angular momentum. Quibbling does not help.
 
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Quarlep said:
I learned that total angular momentum is conserved as indicated above.But I am confused here because total angular momentum is equal spin angular momentum plus orbital angular momentum. In particle interactions like two electron collusions or proton proton collusion every collusions or decays there's no orbital angular momentum(my idea) so I guess total angular momentum must be equal spin angular momentum because there's no orbital momentum so If graviton interects with another particle total angular momentum must be conserved so I claimed that its equal spin angular momentum.Its the reason why I said that graviton and other particle interactions result of spin is 3/2 or 5/2.
Am I wrong.
As soon as there is more than one particle, you can have "orbital" angular momentum (not really as orbit, but as displaced relative motion).
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