Green's Function for BVP: How to Find and Use It?

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The discussion revolves around finding a Green's function G(x,t) for the boundary value problem (BVP) defined by the differential equation y'' + y' = f(x) with boundary conditions y(0) = 0 and y'(1) = 0. The subject area is differential equations and specifically the application of Green's functions in solving BVPs.

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  • The original poster attempts to solve the homogeneous equation and is exploring the implications of boundary conditions on their solution. They express difficulty in finding a second linearly independent solution and question whether a different method is necessary. Other participants clarify the nature of the homogeneous solution and discuss the structure of the Green's function, including the need for two separate solutions based on the value of x relative to t.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the structure of the solution and the requirements for the Green's function. There is an acknowledgment of the need to satisfy specific boundary conditions, and some guidance has been offered regarding the formulation of the Green's function based on the identified solutions.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the boundary conditions and the definitions of the Green's function. There is a mention of the potential need for a textbook reference to further clarify the construction of the Green's function.

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Homework Statement



Find a green's function G(x,t) for the BVP y'' + y' = f(x), y(0) = 0, y'(1) = 0.

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I solved the homogeneous equation, looking for 2 linearly independent solutions, and found A (constant) and exp(-x). I am struggling with the boundary conditions though. My solution y1=A satisfies y1'(1) = 0 but I can't find a solution to satisfy y(0) = 0. If I were to find this, my method would be to write y(x) = c1(x)y1(x) + c2(x)y2(x), then find integral expressions for c1 and c2. However, as I can't find another linearly independent solution to the homogeneous equation do I need to use a different method?

Thank you.
 
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Your homogeneous solution is

y(x) = A + B e-x

It already consists of two linearly independent solutions. You just have to set the constants so they satisfy the boundary condition, as you usually do. In this case, you get A=-B, so the solution you want is

y(x) = A(1 - e-x)
 
Sorry if I am being dumb, but surely when I use y(x) = A(1-exp(-x)) and try to satisfy the boundary condition y'(1) = 0, I get y'(x) = Aexp(-x) so y'(1) = Aexp(-1) so A = 0?
 
After I posted, I thought that's what might be confusing you. The Green's function satisfies

y''(x)+y'(x) = -\delta(x-t)

So you actually have two solutions, u(x) for when x<t and v(x) for when x>t, where 0<t<1. The solution you found would be v(x)=c2. Since it's only valid for x>t, it only has to satisfy the boundary condition at x=1. Similarly, u(x)=c1(1-e-x) is valid for x<t, so it only has to satisfy the boundary condition at x=0. So you have

G(x,t) = \left\{\begin{array}{lr}c_1(1-e^{-x}) &amp; \mathrm{when}~x&lt;t \\ c_2 &amp; \mathrm{when}~x&gt;t\end{array}\right.

The idea now is to figure out what c1 and c2 need to be so that G(x,t) satisfies the requirements of a Green's function.

Do you have a textbook? It probably shows how to construct the Green's function once you have the two solutions u(x) and v(x).
 
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Ah yes :) thanks!
 

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