Group with exactly one element of order 2.

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The problem involves a finite group G that contains exactly one element of order 2, referred to as f. The task is to demonstrate that the product of all elements in G, denoted as h, equals f.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of h being equal to f and the necessity of showing that h^2 equals the identity element e. There is a focus on the uniqueness of f and the need to exclude the possibility of h having order 1.
  • Some participants question whether h is well-defined due to the non-commutative nature of group multiplication and explore the implications of h being in the center of G.
  • There are attempts to reason through the product of elements in G and its relation to the identity element, with considerations of specific cases such as abelian groups and the quaternion group.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various aspects of the problem. Some have raised valid concerns about the assumptions made regarding the order of elements and the definition of h. There is a recognition that the group being abelian could significantly impact the proof, but no consensus has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the group may not be abelian, which complicates the reasoning. Additionally, the uniqueness of the element of order 2 is a critical point under discussion.

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Homework Statement



Suppose G is a finite group containing precisely one element of order 2. Call this element f. Show that [itex]h= \prod_{g \in G} g[/itex] is actually f.

The Attempt at a Solution


Since f has order 2, it must be in the center of G, and hence commutes with all other elements. It is sufficient to show that [itex]h^2 = e[/itex] or equivalently [itex]h = h^{-1}[/itex] by uniqueness of f.

I've been playing around with this, doing things like playing with [itex](fhf)^2[/itex]. Haven't really been able to put 2 and 2 together though. Someone want to throw me in the right direction?
 
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Kreizhn said:
It is sufficient to show that [itex]h^2 = e[/itex] or equivalently [itex]h = h^{-1}[/itex] by uniqueness of f.

Not true, that shows that the order of h is either 1 or 2. You also have to exclude 1 as a possibility.
 
Yes, very true. I can worry about that case afterwards, or is this a suggestion that showing those is not the path to take?
 
I would back up and ask a more basic question: is h well-defined? Multiplication isn't commutative, so in general the value of h depends on the order in which you multiply the elements of G.
 
Yeah, I had been thinking that myself. Since there is no natural index on the group, h must be defined invariant on the order of the multiplication. It's not clear to me if this helps in the proof though.
 
It's an interesting question. I have been thinking about it but haven't worked it out yet. I agree that h is in the center of G and therefore you can "slide it out" of the product. Thus no matter what order you choose for the multiplication, it's possible to write

f = hg

for some element of g.

Furthermore, [itex]f^2 = hghg = h^2g^2 = g^2[/itex], so the problem reduces to proving that [itex]g^2 = e[/itex] whenever g is the product of all elements of G except h. That can happen in one of two ways: either g = h or g = e. But we can rule out the first case, for if g = h then we have f = h^2 = e, but we need f to have order 2, not 1. Thus the only possibility to make this work is g = e.

So the problem reduces to showing that if g is formed by taking the product of all elements of G except h, in any order, you get e. It's obvious that this is true if G is abelian, but I'm not seeing the trick yet for the general case. I'll keep thinking about it as time allows.
 
Take the quaternion group, then this has -1 has unique element of order 2, furthermore

[tex]1(-1)ijk(-i)(-j)(-k)=1[/tex]

and thus is not our element of order 2.
 
micromass said:
Take the quaternion group, then this has -1 has unique element of order 2, furthermore

[tex]1(-1)ijk(-i)(-j)(-k)=1[/tex]

and thus is not our element of order 2.

Nice, I was trying to come up with a concrete nonabelian example to check but forgot about the quaternions.

P.S. Not that it matters now, but I see that I reversed the roles of f and h in my previous post.
 
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Yeah, I saw that you reversed 'em too, but I think we all got it.

Anyway, just checked the errata of the book and found a nice little tidbit that makes a HUGE difference. The group is abelian.
 

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