Half-Wave Rectifier: Understand & Calculate Output Voltage

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The discussion focuses on understanding half-wave rectifiers, particularly in relation to calculating output voltage and the behavior of diodes within the circuit. Participants explore the effects of diode voltage drop and the implications for capacitor charging and output voltage ripple.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the operation of a half-wave rectifier, noting that the diode conducts until the capacitor is fully charged and then enters reverse bias.
  • Another participant confirms that diodes require a minimum voltage to conduct and will exhibit a voltage drop under load due to internal resistance.
  • A question is raised about why the diode's forward voltage drop is subtracted from the maximum voltage when calculating output voltage, leading to further clarification on the behavior of the diode.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the voltage transfer after the diode reaches its forward voltage, suggesting a misunderstanding of how the diode affects the output voltage.
  • A later reply discusses the use of current sensors with oscilloscopes to measure current in the circuit, emphasizing the importance of the diode's ability to conduct sufficient current for the load.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the behavior of the diode and its impact on output voltage calculations. There is no consensus on the correct interpretation of the diode's role in voltage transfer and the implications for output voltage.

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Participants reference specific voltage values and conditions, such as the diode's forward voltage drop and the initial state of the capacitor, but these assumptions may not be universally accepted or clarified.

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This discussion may be useful for students and practitioners interested in electrical engineering, particularly those studying rectifiers and diode behavior in circuits.

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Hello,

I want to come clean with rectifiers. Mainly half wave rectifiers with filter.

[PLAIN]http://www.sciencelobby.com/diodes/images/reservoir-capacitor.gif

Assume these conditions. Diode CVD is 1 V. At t=0 s, or initially, capacitor does not have starting charge. So everywhere else potentials are 0.

When we turn on the circuit, at first, diode won't conduct until 1 V is reached. That is small compared to those 12 volts. Diode will conduct until capacitor is fully charged, or until sinusoid reaches its peak(maximum).

After that, sinusoid starts to drop, but we have that voltage on the capacitor which is now higher than the voltage of the source. So diode doesn't let the current run in other direction and it is in reverse bias. Diode won't let any current until voltage of the source becomes higher than that on the capacitor right? And then capacitor recharges etc.

My question here is:

Did I got this right? How do we calculate output voltage? Its not steady because of that ripple.

If you calculate Vdc=Vmax-Vdiode, Why? Why would you subtract the diode voltage of the Max value because, sinusoid still reaches it maximum.

Does diode gets voltage drop like resistors? Or it just behaves like an element that needs certain voltage to let current through?

(and thanks PF and EE fellows I just passed all my exams with decent marks.)
 
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it just behaves like an element that needs certain voltage to let current through

you got it right. diode has PN junction and PN junctions have minimum voltages to operate. and on load diode will offer voltage drop due to internal resistance
 
Then why would be subtract the CVD from Vmax? Isn't there a presence of the SAME Vmax on the output?
 
Because the diode takes 0.7 volts to be forward biased, and it takes 0.7V to keep it forward biased.

In that respect, you can think of it as a constant voltage resistor. Whenever you send something through a diode, 0.7 volts is lost.
 
Hmmm so I did got that wrong. I thought that AFTER diode gets on the 0,7 Volts, it "transfers" that voltage on that parallel capacitor. So basically I thought like diode does nothing for 0-0,7 V then let's the current through, and likewise voltage is transferred...

So in a nutshell, when I get to those 0,7 V, those volts are lost at the diode, and the potential "after the diode in the circuit" is going to be 0 and then rise to Umax-0,7V (or 1V as I said in problem)

EDIT:

Can i get the oscilloscope the measure the current instead of voltage in National Instruments multisim?
 
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Yes there are current sensors for oscilloscopes. They clamp around a conductor.

One thing to think about is that where the red line in your diagram is rising is the only time the rectifier is conducting, while the load is generally drawing current all the time. That means that the diode must be capable of conducting many times the current required by the load.
 

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