Hall Coefficient: Intrinsic Material | N & P-Type Equations

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The discussion revolves around the Hall coefficient, specifically exploring whether a general equation exists for intrinsic materials that can derive the equations for n-type and p-type materials. Participants examine the relationships between charge carriers and their concentrations in different types of semiconductors.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that a general equation for the Hall coefficient could exist for intrinsic materials, which would yield the specific equations for n-type and p-type materials.
  • Others argue that the Hall coefficient depends on the charge and concentration of the carriers, noting that for intrinsic silicon, the coefficients for electrons and holes differ only by sign.
  • A participant suggests a formula for the Hall coefficient of intrinsic materials, but expresses uncertainty about its correctness and the potential need for including intrinsic carrier concentration (ni).
  • Another participant emphasizes that intrinsic materials have equal concentrations of n and p carriers, and that the mobilities of these carriers must be considered when calculating the Hall coefficient.
  • There is a suggestion that the general formula could involve replacing carrier concentrations with their respective mobilities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the existence or form of a general equation for the Hall coefficient for intrinsic materials. Multiple competing views remain regarding the treatment of carrier concentrations and mobilities.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of considering the mobilities of charge carriers and the equal concentrations of n and p carriers in intrinsic materials, but do not resolve how these factors should be incorporated into a general formula.

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hey guyz... i was reading about the hall coefficient...there was 2 equations of the hall coefficient one for the n-type material and one for the p-type.
iwas thinking if there exist a general one for the intrinsic material and from it we can get this 2 equations.
 
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Yes, there does exist a general equation from which all the specific cases can be written down.

Write down one of the two equations that you have, and someone can show you how that comes from the general equation.

As for the general equation itself, you can simply look up the Hall Effect, and you will find it.

Edit: Crossposted with anto again!
 
for p-type: Rh=1/qp0 q=charge p0=hole concentration
n-type: Rh=-1/qn0 q=charge(negative) n0=electron concentration

i was thinking about a general formula for intrinsic and from it we can get this 2 equations...it is Rh=1/q(p0-n0)
it may be wrong but it looks so logic...but i feel like it should contain ni ?
 
Sure, you can get a more "general" formula for the Hall coefficient if instead of q (the electron charge) you put the charge of the specific carrier, and instead of n or p you put the concentration of the specific carrier. But there is no need for such a generalization since it interests us if the Hall coefficient is positive or negative because it tells us what is the type of carriers (electron or hole) that make the current in the material whose Hall coefficient we know. See the link I gave you.
 
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what u r talking about is the hall coefficient for n-type or p-type ... but what about intrinsic materials? here is the question
 
moe_3_moe said:
what u r talking about is the hall coefficient for n-type or p-type ... but what about intrinsic materials? here is the question

You are confused about the meaning of intrinsic. There are always n and p carriers in a semiconductor, intrinsic means that the concentrations are equal. You cannot just add the carrier densities because the mobilities are not equal, you need to take the sum of the n and p contributions.
 
so u mean we have to replace n and p by theere formulas with the mobility? so we can get the the general hall coefficient with respect to mobility of holes and electrons?
 
moe_3_moe said:
so u mean we have to replace n and p by theere formulas with the mobility? so we can get the the general hall coefficient with respect to mobility of holes and electrons?

Yes, you have to account for all the physics.
 
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ok i will reveiw the course and study it all and try to get the solution and see if it works tahnk u anyway
 

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