Hallback Array Closed Loop Coil

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the Halbach Array and its application in a closed loop coil system for a gravity-assisted propulsion mechanism, drawing parallels to Maglev technology. Participants explore the configuration of coils necessary to optimize the Lorenz force for this application.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, Robin07, seeks information on the coil configuration needed to maximize the Lorenz force in a system utilizing a Halbach Array, emphasizing the challenge of finding relevant formulas or specifications.
  • Another participant suggests searching for existing discussions on the Halbach Array, indicating that there may be more information available online.
  • A different participant raises a concern about the feasibility of a design that relies solely on gravity, noting that it would limit movement to downhill only.
  • Robin07 mentions the need for a coil setup that can effectively work with the induced current from the Halbach Array, stating that aluminum is an option but copper would be preferable.
  • Robin07 also notes that levitation occurs only when the sled is moving above a certain speed (2.5 km/hr), highlighting a specific operational requirement for the system.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and concern regarding the feasibility of the proposed design, with some agreeing on the challenges posed by gravity reliance, while the specifics of the coil configuration and operational parameters remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the optimal coil configuration or the implications of relying solely on gravity for propulsion. There are also unresolved questions regarding the necessary calculations to determine the strength of the magnets and the resulting coil setup.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring applications of Halbach Arrays, those involved in magnetic levitation technology, and anyone looking to understand the interplay between coil configurations and magnetic forces in propulsion systems.

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Hi all, I'm new to this forum and I'm not a physicist. I'm a Cabinet Maker looking for a career change.

I performed an advanced search on the entire site and was surprised to find not a mention in regards to Halbach Array. My understanding is that the special arrangement of nib magnets can lift 50 times its own weight. This arrangement is used in a fairly new application, amongst others, called "Maglev". The arrangement of the magnets are pretty straight forward. The specs or the means to figure out the closed loop coils used to facilitate the Lorenz force is very difficult to find. There must be a formula or means to measure the strength of a given magnet and from there calculate how to maximize the coil configuration so that the Lorenz force is at its peek. In the Maglev train application a linear motor is used to propel the train but in my application I will only need gravity much like an Olympic bob sled does.

Can any of you help me find the information I'm searching for or the means to be able to figure this out?

Thanks
Robin07
 
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Halbach Array

Try searching for Halbach array (after Klaus Halbach). You'll find some discussion here and plenty more with Google.

And welcome to PF!
 
I second the Welcome to PF. Without even going to Doc's link, though, I think that I see a problem. If your design relies solely upon gravity, you can only run the thing downhill. There can be some coasting to some point up the next hill, but you can never exceed the height at which you start.
 
Like I mentioned, its the coil configuration that I'm having trouble finding any information on. I understand that aluminum is an option but copper would be the best material to use. The Halbach array induces a current which in turn creates an apposing magnetic field. The levitation only occurs when your sled is moving in excess of 2.5 km/hr. I've searched the web(Google) and read of the inductrack info extensively to find very little mentioned in regards to the coil setup.

Robin07
 

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