Harmonic Motion with External Force: Impact on Period?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a particle undergoing harmonic motion with an external force proportional to its velocity. The original poster seeks to understand how this external force affects the period of oscillation.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the differential equation for the motion before and after the application of the external force. They express confusion regarding the resulting solution, which does not yield a sinusoidal function.
  • Some participants note that the problem relates to damped harmonic motion and suggest that the solution is underdamped, yet the original poster questions how to determine the new period from the non-sinusoidal solution.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the implications of the external force on the motion and discussing the nature of the solution. While some guidance has been offered regarding the classification of the problem, the original poster remains uncertain about the period of oscillation.

Contextual Notes

The original poster indicates that the problem assumes continued oscillation despite the introduction of damping, which raises questions about the assumptions and definitions involved in the setup.

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Homework Statement


A particle with mass m is undergoing with harmonic motion with a period T, we introduce an external force F proportional to velocity v so that F= -bv with b a constant and we assume that the particle continues to oscillate how does the period change?

Homework Equations

F= m a ; v'= a; x'= v; x''= a[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution



So my idea was creating the differential equation of the motion:

Before the external force to be applied :

m x" + k x= 0 (there, must be a force F=-kx even if the problem doesn't mention it so that the harmonic motion exists before the application of the external force) so T= 2 pi (m/k)^0.5[/B]

After the force:

mx'' + b x' + k x= 0 , the problem is that this equation has not as a solution a function like this x (t)= A cos ( wt + phi) but a linear combination of exponential function so I can't figure out what the period is... (to solve the equation is used wolfram alpha and it doesn't give me a sinusoidal function)

Please help me this problem is freaking me out
 
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It's an elementary problem in differential equation, called damped harmonic motion. See this link about a way to solve such kind of problem. Note that since the problem assumes the particle to continue undergoing oscillation, this problem implies the underdamped solution.
 
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blue_leaf77 said:
It's an elementary problem in differential equation, called damped harmonic motion. See this link about a way to solve such kind of problem. Note that since the problem assumes the particle to continue undergoing oscillation, this problem implies the underdamped solution.

The relation in the link doesn't give me info about the new period of oscillation, because the solution is not a sinusoidal function but expo, how do I get it?
 
Ok, i found it, thanks
 

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