Harmonic oscillator superposition amplitude evaluation

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the amplitudes of states in a quantum harmonic oscillator after a sudden change in potential. The original poster presents the wave functions for the first three states of the harmonic oscillator and describes the transition to a new potential characterized by a halved frequency.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to evaluate integrals to find the coefficients for the new states but encounters difficulties with the symbols and parameters involved.
  • Participants discuss the limits of integration for determining amplitudes and clarify that integration should be performed from negative to positive infinity.
  • There is a consideration of whether the integrand is even or odd, affecting the approach to the integral.
  • The original poster raises a question about the implications of integrating over a limited range versus all space in relation to orthogonality of eigenstates.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the integration limits and the nature of the integrand, while others have confirmed the original poster's understanding of the mathematical properties involved. The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of their findings.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about the mathematical evaluation and the implications of the sudden change in potential on the harmonic oscillator states. There is a focus on ensuring proper integration techniques and understanding the properties of the wave functions involved.

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Hi all

Homework Statement


I have the first three states of the harmonic oscillator, and I need to know the amplitudes for the states after the potential is dropped.

Homework Equations


[itex]u_{0}=(\frac{1}{\pi a^{2}})^{\frac{1}{4}} e^{{\frac{-x^2}{2a^2}}}[/itex]

[itex]u_{1}=(\frac{4}{\pi})^{\frac{1}{4}} (\frac{1}{a^2})^\frac{3}{4} x e^{({\frac{-x^2}{2a^2}})}[/itex]

[itex]u_{2}=(\frac{1}{4\pi a^2})^{\frac{1}{4}} (\frac{2x^2}{a^2}-1) e^{{\frac{-x^2}{2a^2}}}[/itex]

Then, the potential is lowered suddenly, by setting [itex]\omega ' = \frac{\omega}{2}[/itex].

The system is then modeled with the expansion postulate, as a superposition of these three new states, with [itex]\omega'[/itex] in them.

The particle was originally in the ground state before the potential was lowered, so I have that:

[itex]C_{i}=\int u_{i}^* \psi dx[/itex]

Where [itex]\psi[/itex] represents the ground state function, as stated above, with [itex]\omega[/itex]. The states are real though, so the complex conjugate is unchanged from the normal state.

The Attempt at a Solution


When I try to evaluate these integrals, I find that I can't actually do it. The problem is that the different symbols keep tripping me up... The ω and ω' values don't seem to gel.

Am I doing the physics wrong, or am I simple falling short on the maths?
Thanks, all.
 
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Ah! Solved the maths problems...

I have one more question, though. For a one-dimensional quantum harmonic oscillator, when determining the amplitudes,[itex]C_{i}[/itex], should I integrate from 0 to infinity, or from -infinity to infinity? I'm guessing it's the latter.
 
You're right, the latter.
 
vela said:
You're right, the latter.
Thanks!

To that end, I have a standard integral that gives the answer for the limits 0 and infinity. Is it simply a matter of multiplying by two or have I missed something?
 
If the integrand is an even function, you can simply multiply by 2. If it's odd, the integral will vanish.
 
vela said:
If the integrand is an even function, you can simply multiply by 2. If it's odd, the integral will vanish.
It's an exponential, similar in form to:

[itex]\int e^{-ax^2} dx = 0.5[\frac{\pi}{a}]^\frac{1}{2}[/itex]

Where the limits are taken over 0 and infinity for this identity.

So, am I okay to multiply by two?
 
You should be able to answer that on your own. A function f(x) is even if f(x)=f(-x) and odd if f(x)=-f(x). Which one do you have on your hands here?
 
I've been having a duh moment here...(I blame late night maths). it's clearly even, because the x has an even exponent. So multiplying by two is permitted.
 
Okay, so now I have a superposition of the 3 states, complete with amplitudes. I've introduced a time dependence by setting
[itex]\psi = \Sigma C_{i} U_{i} e^{\frac {-iE_{i}t} {h}}[/itex]

Which gives me a superposition state with 3 terms. Now, I want to find the probability of finding this particle in an area -a to a, so I've multiplied the above by its complex conjugate, which gives an expression with 9 terms. If I now integrate over -a to a, am I right in thinking that the terms that contain two of the original eigenstates (eg U0 and U1) will reduce to the kronecker delta, or is that only valid for an integral over all space?
 
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To rely on orthogonality, you have to integrate over all space.
 

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