Probability of Finding Particle in New Potential for Doubled Spring Constant

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The discussion revolves around a particle in the ground state of a one-dimensional harmonic oscillator, specifically addressing the scenario where the spring constant is doubled. Participants are exploring how this change affects the probability of finding the particle in the new potential.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the spring constant and the parameter alpha in the wavefunction. There is an exploration of how doubling the spring constant affects the wavefunctions and the integral used to calculate the probability.

Discussion Status

Some participants have clarified the relationship between alpha and the spring constant, while others are questioning the correct formulation of the integral needed to find the probability. There is recognition of an error in the initial approach to the integral, and a suggestion to use standard integral tables for calculation.

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Participants are working within the constraints of homework rules, focusing on understanding the implications of changes in the spring constant without providing complete solutions.

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Homework Statement


particle in ground state of 1D harmonic oscillator - spring constant is doubled - what is the probability of finding the particle in the ground state of the new potential



Homework Equations


v=1/2kx^2 oscillator potential
wavefunction ground state n=0 = (alpha/pi)^1/4*e^[(-apha*x^2)/2]
alpha = sqroot[(k*m)/hbar^2)]


The Attempt at a Solution



the probability will be = integral[wavefunction old*wavefunction new]dx

initial equation d^2psi/dx^2 + [2m(E-1/2kx^2)/hbar]psi = 0
if you double k in the potential V(x)- the equation is d^2psi/dx^2 + [2m(E-kx^2)/hbar]psi = 0

does this change alpha to 2k? this makes the integral very complex to solve.
or can this be done by changing the wavefunction for the new potential to (alpha/2pi)^1/4*e^[(-apha*x^2)/2]

the change being 2pi - doubling the range of the spring constant?
Thanks!
 
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kl14 said:
does this change alpha to 2k?

No. How is alpha related to k? What happens to alpha if k is doubled? Does it stay the same? Double? Or what?
 
alpha = sqrt(k*reduced mass/hbar^2)
so doubling k would just be alpha = sqrt(2k*reduced mass/hbar^2)

so if i take the 2 out it is basically just multiplying alpha by sqrt(2). and substituting this into my wave function would give me the wave function for the new potential. does that make sense?
 
Yes. So now you have the two wave functions. Earlier, you wrote

the probability will be = integral[wavefunction old*wavefunction new]dx

but this is not quite right. The integral gives you the amplitude; what do you need to do to get the probability?
 
kl14 :

Your original quesion was how to solve the integral. Avodyne pointed out an error you did with the sqrt(2).

But to calculate the integral, you get something like:
k_1 k_2 e^{-a_1 x^2 }\cdot e^{-a_2 x^2} = K \cdot e^{-(a_1 +a_2 )x^2}
as integrand, where a_1 is the old number you have in the old wave function and so on. There is not any harder to calc this integral then the ordinary one, just make the substitution (a_1 + a_2) = A, and integrate from x=-inf to +inf; that integral exists in standard integral-tables.
 
yes, i realize my error in typing - the probability is the amplitude squared - the value obtained after the integration.
 

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