Hamiltonian of a 1D Linear Harmonic Oscillator

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The discussion revolves around the Hamiltonian of a one-dimensional linear harmonic oscillator, specifically its formulation and the implications of its components, including the momentum and position operators. Participants are tasked with showing the equivalence of two forms of the Hamiltonian and exploring the Schrödinger equation related to the system.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants attempt to understand the relationship between the Hamiltonian and the Schrödinger equation, with some exploring the implications of the terms involving the momentum and position operators. Questions arise regarding the significance of the additive constant in the Hamiltonian and its effect on the ground state energy.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the Hamiltonian's formulation, with some participants providing insights into the definition of the Hamiltonian and its arbitrary nature concerning additive constants. Guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of terms and the expectation value of the Hamiltonian in the ground state.

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Participants note that the problem may lack clarity regarding the choice of the additive constant in the Hamiltonian, which affects the ground state energy. This aspect is under discussion, with varying interpretations being explored.

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Homework Statement



Show that for the one-dimensional linear harmonic oscillator the Hamiltonian is:
[; H = \frac{1}{2}[P^2+\omega ^2 X^2]-\frac{1}{2}\omega \hbar ;]

[; =\frac{1}{2}[P+i\omega X][P-i\omega X]+\frac{1}{2} \omega \hbar ;]

where P, X are the momentum and position operators, respectively, and [; X= \sqrt{m}x ;].

Homework Equations


[; H = \frac{1}{2}[P^2+\omega ^2 X^2]-\frac{1}{2}\omega \hbar ;]

[; =\frac{1}{2}[P+i\omega X][P-i\omega X]+\frac{1}{2} \omega \hbar ;]

[; X= \sqrt{m}x ;] [; P = p/ \sqrt{m}} ;]

Sch. Eqn.: [;-\frac{\hbar}{2m}\frac{d^2\Psi }{dx^2}+\frac{1}{2}m\omega^2x^2\Psi = E\Psi ;].

The Attempt at a Solution


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So as from what I can tell [; [P+i\omega X] ;] refers to the +x direction and [;
[P-i\omega X] ;] is in the -x direction. The momentum operator is going to be [; P = p/ \sqrt{m}} ;].Sch. Eqn.: [;-\frac{\hbar}{2m}\frac{d^2\Psi }{dx^2}+\frac{1}{2}m\omega^2x^2\Psi = E\Psi ;].

So what I assume is Sch.Eqn. must be solved algebraically. From there we can get our Hamiltonian.

Any suggestions?
 
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Patrick McBride said:

Homework Statement



Show that for the one-dimensional linear harmonic oscillator the Hamiltonian is:
H = \frac{1}{2}[P^2+\omega ^2 X^2]-\frac{1}{2}\omega \hbar

=\frac{1}{2}[P+i\omega X][P-i\omega X]+\frac{1}{2} \omega \hbar

where P, X are the momentum and position operators, respectively, and ##X= \sqrt{m}x##.

Homework Equations


H = \frac{1}{2}[P^2+\omega ^2 X^2]-\frac{1}{2}\omega \hbar

=\frac{1}{2}[P+i\omega X][P-i\omega X]+\frac{1}{2} \omega \hbar

X= \sqrt{m}x ~~~~~P = p/ \sqrt{m}

Sch. Eqn.:

-\frac{\hbar}{2m}\frac{d^2\Psi }{dx^2}+\frac{1}{2}m\omega^2x^2\Psi = E\Psi

The Attempt at a Solution


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So as from what I can tell ## [P+i\omega X] ## refers to the +x direction and ##
[P-i\omega X] ## is in the -x direction. The momentum operator is going to be ## P = p/ \sqrt{m} ##.Sch. Eqn.: ##-\frac{\hbar}{2m}\frac{d^2\Psi }{dx^2}+\frac{1}{2}m\omega^2x^2\Psi = E\Psi ##.

So what I assume is Sch.Eqn. must be solved algebraically. From there we can get our Hamiltonian.

Any suggestions?

I corrected all your TeX tags so that the equations will show up properly.

First:, the ## P \pm i \omega x ## have nothing to do with momentum along +x or -x, each P is actually ##P_x## and may be positive or negative.

The Hamiltonian is simply the operator H in ## H \psi = E \psi ## so you may read it off directly from the Schrödinger equation that you wrote. Then to show the second form, you may simply expand out the second form and use what you know about the commutator of P and X.
 
Ok so I had a crack at it and this is what I've gotten:

## \frac{P^2}{2m} +\frac{1}{2}kx^2 =H ## Harmonic Oscillator Hamiltonian

## -\frac{\hbar^2}{2m} \frac{d^2\Psi }{dx^2}+\frac{1}{2}kx^2 \Psi = E \Psi ## Schrödinger Equation for energy eigenstates.

## \omega =\sqrt{\frac{k}{m}} ## Replace spring constant with classical oscillator frequency.

## \frac{p^2}{2m} = \frac{1}{2}(\frac{p}{\sqrt{m}})^2 = \frac{1}{2}P^2 ## Simplifying using the momentum operator ##P##.

## X^2 = (\sqrt{m}x)^2 = mx^2 ## We can do the same for our position operator ##X##.

## H =\frac{1}{2}P^2 + \frac{1}{2}\omega ^2 X^2 = \frac{1}{2}(P^2 +\omega^2 X^2) ## Subbing into our equation for ##H##.

That explains everything except ##-1/2 \omega \hbar ## from the first equation.
Am I missing something?
 
Patrick McBride said:
Ok so I had a crack at it and this is what I've gotten:

## \frac{P^2}{2m} +\frac{1}{2}kx^2 =H ## Harmonic Oscillator Hamiltonian

## -\frac{\hbar^2}{2m} \frac{d^2\Psi }{dx^2}+\frac{1}{2}kx^2 \Psi = E \Psi ## Schrödinger Equation for energy eigenstates.

## \omega =\sqrt{\frac{k}{m}} ## Replace spring constant with classical oscillator frequency.

## \frac{p^2}{2m} = \frac{1}{2}(\frac{p}{\sqrt{m}})^2 = \frac{1}{2}P^2 ## Simplifying using the momentum operator ##P##.

## X^2 = (\sqrt{m}x)^2 = mx^2 ## We can do the same for our position operator ##X##.

## H =\frac{1}{2}P^2 + \frac{1}{2}\omega ^2 X^2 = \frac{1}{2}(P^2 +\omega^2 X^2) ## Subbing into our equation for ##H##.

That explains everything except ##-1/2 \omega \hbar ## from the first equation.
Am I missing something?
Good work.

The hamiltonian is actually defined up to an additive constant, that is one can *define* the Hamiltonian to be what you got plus any constant energy. This added constant is arbitrary. It is usually taken to be zero, in which case your expression would be the final answer. But what they did here is to choose the constant in such a way that the expectation value ##\langle 0 | H | 0 \rangle =0## , in other words they wanted the ground state energy to be zero (they should have mentioned that in the question, if they did not, they were not very clear). You probably know that the expectation value of the Hamiltonian in the ground state is usually given as ##\hbar \omega/2##, that's what you would get with your expression. So they decided to subtract that value from your H H in order to achieve, with their hamiltonian, ##\langle 0 | H | 0 \rangle =0##.
 
nrqed said:
Good work.

The hamiltonian is actually defined up to an additive constant, that is one can *define* the Hamiltonian to be what you got plus any constant energy. This added constant is arbitrary. It is usually taken to be zero, in which case your expression would be the final answer. But what they did here is to choose the constant in such a way that the expectation value ##\langle 0 | H | 0 \rangle =0## , in other words they wanted the ground state energy to be zero (they should have mentioned that in the question, if they did not, they were not very clear). You probably know that the expectation value of the Hamiltonian in the ground state is usually given as ##\hbar \omega/2##, that's what you would get with your expression. So they decided to subtract that value from your H H in order to achieve, with their hamiltonian, ##\langle 0 | H | 0 \rangle =0##.
Cool, thanks for the explanation really helped out.
 

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