Harmonic sum and a stack of blocks (check my work)

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The discussion revolves around the harmonic sum defined as S_n = 1 + (1/2) + (1/3) + ... + (1/n) and its applications in determining specific values of n for given conditions. The original poster explores the conditions under which S_n exceeds 100 and how to construct a stack of blocks to achieve a specified length.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to find n such that S_n > 100 by using logarithmic inequalities. They also discuss the construction of a stack of blocks and question the feasibility of achieving a specific length with harmonic properties.

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Participants are engaging with the original poster's reasoning, with some providing insights into mathematical functions related to the problem. There is an exploration of the implications of using floor and ceiling functions, as well as considerations of physical concepts like center of mass.

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Some participants note the need to understand the center of mass in relation to the stacking problem, indicating a potential gap in the original poster's knowledge of physics concepts relevant to the discussion.

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Homework Statement



Let S_n = 1 + (1/2) + (1/3) + (1/4) + ... + (1/n)

a) What value of n is required such that S_n > 100?

b) Show how one can form a stack of identical blocks (one per row), each 1 ft long, so as to form a "wing" (I don't know what the correct word in English is, but I believe you understand) that is 50 ft long. Is it possible to form a "wing" 50 million ft long?

Taken from Algebra and Trigonometry with Analytic Geometry, by Varberg and Fleming (Spanish version.)

Homework Equations



In calculus, it is proved that

ln n < 1 + (1/2) + (1/3) + (1/4) + ... + (1/n) < 1+ ln n

The Attempt at a Solution



a) The first thing that I have done is plug ln n = 100. Solving for n one gets it equals e^100. But n must be an integer, so I have two options.

Let f(x) denote the greatest integer less than or equal to x, and g(x) denote the smallest integer greater than or equal to x.

If I plug n = f(e^100), I wouldn't know for sure whether S_n > 100. On the other hand, it is certain that n = g(e^100) satisfies the condition.

b) If there is an integer n such that S_n - 1 = 50, we're done: we can put the second block in the stack so that it sticks out 1/n ft in relation to the first, the third block sticking out 1/(n-1) ft in relation to the second, and so on until we put the top block, which will stick out 1/2 ft in relation to the one that's below.

If such an integer n doesn't exist, we plug n = g(e^51) (remember the function I defined in part (a):)

(ln g(e^51)) - 1 < S_n - 1 < ln g(e^51)

so we can multiply the expression at the center by a number that is less than one in order to get that expression to be equal to 50; that is, we multiply 1/2 , 1/3 , 1/4 , ... , 1/n by that number so as to keep the stack of blocks "harmonic".

The answer to the second question in part (b) is yes, we can. The procedure is similar to the one described for the 50 ft "wing." The number n in this case will be much bigger.
 
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Hi. Gauss invented function expressing maximum integer that does not exceed x. It may help you.
 
Hi, sweet springs. Thank you for replying. Isn't f(x), which I have defined above (of course, I'm not the first person to have used such function), the function you are talking about?

If I plug n = f(e^100), S_n is not going to be necessarily greater than 100. We don't know what value it is (unless we compute it), but it may be below 100 given that ln x is an increasing function (e^100 is greater than or equal to f(e^100))
 
Honestly, I didn't know their names. On the other hand, I have searched for a solution to the problem on other resources. I see that I have to take into account the center of mass, a concept I am not familiar with (I'm ignorant of physics).
 
One of the resources (Wolfram MathWorld) states that the maximum length that can be achieved by n blocks is (1/2)*S_n.
 

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