(has been resolved):Integral to find elbow volume

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Homework Statement
to find elbow volume
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volume integral
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Please help me to understand which answer is correct.
I use the integral method to find the elbow volume as follows:
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But my book say:
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The area of the circular cross-section of diameter r shown in the integral is not correct, it should be ##\pi(r)^2/4##
 
Lnewqban said:
The area of the circular cross-section of diameter r shown in the integral is not correct, it should be ##\pi(r)^2/4##
i think it should be ##\pi(2r)^2/4##
 
tracker890 Source h said:
i think it should be ##\pi(2r)^2/4##
Think again…
The r that has been given to you is the diameter of the cross-section of the elbow.
Therefore, the area of that section should be π times the radius of that section, which in your case is r/2.
Then,
##\pi(r/2)^2=\pi(r)^2/4##
 
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Another way to do it, leading to the same result of ##2.3562*r^3## that is shown in the book:
Straightening the elbow until it becomes a cylinder, its length should be equal to the perimeter of the center line of the elbow.
As the perimeter of that line is ##2\pi(radius~to~center)/4##, then
##Length=2\pi(1.5r)/4##
##Volume=Area~*~Length##
##Volume=(\pi/4)[(r^2)(2)(1.5)(r)]=(3/4)\pi(r^3)##
 
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Lnewqban said:
Another way to do it, leading to the same result of ##2.3562*r^3## that is shown in the book:
Straightening the elbow until it becomes a cylinder, its length should be equal to the perimeter of the center line of the elbow.
As the perimeter of that line is ##2\pi(radius~to~center)/4##, then
##Length=2\pi(1.5r)/4##
##Volume=Area~*~Length##
##Volume=(\pi/4)[(r^2)(2)(1.5)(r)]=(3/4)\pi(r^3)##
Shouldn’t there be another π/4?
 
Frabjous said:
Shouldn’t there be another π/4?
Perhaps.
I am very clumsy working with LaTeX.

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Lnewqban said:
Perhaps.
I am very clumsy working with LaTeX.

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Your answer is correct.
The cross section area = ##\pi \text{(}\frac{r}{2}\text{)}^2##
$$
\forall _{elbow}=\int_0^{\frac{\pi}{2}}{A\left( 1.5r \right) d\theta =}\int_0^{\frac{\pi}{2}}{\left( \pi \text{(}\frac{r}{2}\text{)}^2 \right) \left( \frac{3}{2}r \right) d\theta =\text{(}\frac{\pi r^2}{4}\text{)}\left( \frac{3}{2}r \right) \left( \frac{\pi}{2} \right)}=\frac{3}{16}\pi ^2r^3
$$
 
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Lnewqban said:
Think again…
The r that has been given to you is the diameter of the cross-section of the elbow.
Therefore, the area of that section should be π times the radius of that section, which in your case is r/2.
Then,
##\pi(r/2)^2=\pi(r)^2/4##
Yes!
Your answer is correct.
 
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