Have i done this right? Simply Supported Beams

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the analysis of simply supported beams, specifically focusing on calculating reaction forces Ra and Rb, as well as plotting the shear force diagram. Participants are addressing issues related to their calculations and understanding of bending moments and shear forces in the context of structural engineering.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster describes their approach to finding Ra and Rb using the sum of moments and provides specific values and calculations.
  • Some participants propose that the calculations for Ra and Rb were initially incorrect, with later posts indicating corrections to these values.
  • There is a request for assistance in plotting the shear force diagram, with a rough example provided by the original poster.
  • A later reply suggests that checking reactions by taking moments about different points can help verify calculations and notes that various sign conventions may be used in shear force diagrams.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the accuracy of their calculations for Ra and Rb, with some corrections noted. The discussion on plotting the shear force diagram indicates differing approaches, but no consensus on a single method is reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention potential errors in their calculations and the need for clarification on plotting conventions, indicating that assumptions about sign conventions and calculation methods may vary.

Who May Find This Useful

Students and practitioners in engineering, particularly those studying structural analysis and mechanics of materials, may find this discussion relevant for understanding the calculation of reaction forces and shear force diagrams in simply supported beams.

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Homework Statement



I am having issues finding Ra and Rb using the Sum of the momemnts, it's ƩMCW = MACW.

I need to find the position of the maximum and minimum bending moments.

The Supported beams in question is 3.5m long. Starting from the left and moving towards the right: 1m in and then a 2KN load, then 1.5m further in and then another load of 3KN hits down and then an extra 1m when it meets the end.

Like this: 1m, 2KN, 1.5m, 3KN, 1m.
Ra Rb

Looking at my notes for some example i did (didn't finish the notes, must of forgot and now paying the price), example i did:

3m, 4KN, 4m, 3KN.
Ra Rb

And here are the notes:

ƩMCW = MACW

(4x3) + (3X7) = Rb x 12

12 + 21 =Rb x 12

33/12 = Rb =2.75KN

ƩFup = ƩFdown

Ra + Rb = 4+3

Ra + 2.75 = 7

Ra = 7 - 2.75

Ra = 4.25KN

In the Engineering book i brought: Engineering Science by Mike Tooley and Lloyd Dingle, there is a beam example:

2m, 20KN, 3m, 5KN, 2m, 30KN, 2m, 15KN.
Ra Rb

He did this: 2x20 + 5x5 + 7x30 + 9x15 = 8xRb

Using this example and my own, i attempted to answer the question to find Ra and Rb. The very first and poorly drawn supported beam at the top.

Homework Equations



Direct Stress σ = F/A = Force/Area n/m squared

Sheer stress ζ = F/A = Force/Area n/m squared

Strain ε = Δ x L/L = Change in length/Original length.

Modulus of elasticity E = σ/ε = stress/strain N/M squared.

The Attempt at a Solution



Here is my attempt at the very first diagram (the 3.5 over all length)

(2x1) + (2.5x3) = 9.5

Rb x 3.5 = 9.5 x 3.5 = 33.25

2+7 = Rb x 3.5

9.5/3.5 = 2.71KN

Rb = 2.71KN

ƩFup = ƩFdown

Ra + Rb = 2 + 3 = 5

Ra + 2.71 = 5 - 2.71 = 2.5 KN

Ra = 2.5KN

So Rb = 2.71 KN and Ra = 2.5KN

What i don't undertand is on my previous attempt, Ra = 2.286 KN and Rb = 2.714KN

Where have i gone wrong? And what do i need to do after finding Ra and Rb?
 
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Found Ra. How did i miss that.

My first notes were correct. Rb = 2.714kn and Ra = 2.286kn

I did the calculations wrong.
 
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Ok, i need help, how do i plot the sheer force diagram?

I did a rough example:

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+2.28 for 1m then with the 2KN i come down to .28 for 2.5m and with the 3KN i come down to -2.72 for 3.5m and then back up to 0 inbetween the plus and minus.
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Is this rough version ok?
 
You can always check your own reactions by taking moments about ANY point you haven't used to get the initial result. Your SFD seems ok to me, But people use various sign conventions.
 

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