Having trouble understanding Odd or even functions of Fourier

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The discussion revolves around determining whether a given piecewise function is even, odd, or neither. The function is defined in two segments over a specified interval, and participants are exploring the properties of even and odd functions in the context of Fourier analysis.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the definitions of even and odd functions, referencing examples such as cosine and sine functions. There is a focus on graphing the piecewise function to visually assess its symmetry.

Discussion Status

Some participants are questioning their understanding of the function's symmetry and whether it aligns with the definitions of even or odd functions. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of graphing the function and extending it beyond the initial period. Guidance has been offered regarding the necessity of examining multiple periods of the function.

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There are mentions of confusion regarding the classification of functions as even or odd based on their graphical representations, as well as references to textbook answers that seem contradictory to participants' interpretations.

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Homework Statement



Is the function even, odd, or neither

y(t) = \frac{2At}{w} for 0<t<\frac{w}{2}
y(t) = \frac{-2At}{w}+2A for \frac{w}{2}<t<w

Homework Equations



even function f(-t) = f(t)
off function f(-t) = -f(t)

The Attempt at a Solution



I just don't understand the concept, any help is appreciated.
 
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An example of a even function is y = cosine (x) or y = x^2.
An example of an odd function is y = sine (x) or y = x.

If you look a graphs of these functions, what property of their graphs distinguishes an even function from an odd function?
 
I believe you meant to specify one piecewise function:
$$y(t) = \begin{cases}
\frac{2At}{w}, & 0 \le t < \frac w2 \\
2A - \frac{2At}{w}, & \frac w2 \le t < w
\end{cases}.$$ This specifies just one period of the function. You want to repeat it so that you have a function defined for all ##t##. The question is asking if the resulting function is even, odd, or neither.
 
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vela said:
I believe you meant to specify one piecewise function:
$$y(t) = \begin{cases}
\frac{2At}{w}, & 0 \le t < \frac w2 \\
2A - \frac{2At}{w}, & \frac w2 \le t < w
\end{cases}.$$ This specifies just one period of the function. You want to repeat it so that you have a function defined for all ##t##. The question is asking if the resulting function is even, odd, or neither.

That is correct, I could not figure out how to do the piecewise function.

I have done a bunch of reading and I still don't get it. If i graph it (see attachment it doesn't appear to be symmetrical about either axis, or maybe I am just missing something)
Thanks
 

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Spoolx said:
That is correct, I could not figure out how to do the piecewise function.

I have done a bunch of reading and I still don't get it. If i graph it (see attachment it doesn't appear to be symmetrical about either axis, or maybe I am just missing something)
Thanks

What you have drawn is just one period. Draw some more of the graph, using the fact that you know what a period looks like, going both directions and see if what you get looks even or odd.
 
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LCKurtz said:
What you have drawn is just one period. Draw some more of the graph, using the fact that you know what a period looks like, going both directions and see if what you get looks even or odd.

in that case I would say its symmetrical about the y-axis which I believe is like a cos function so even?
 
Spoolx said:
in that case I would say its symmetrical about the y-axis which I believe is like a cos function so even?

Yes. You can see from the graph that ##f(-x)=f(x)##.
 
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Well I thought I understood it, but I ran into two more problems which don't make sense

To me, they both should be Cos or even functions but the book says the first one is an odd function.

What am I missing?

Thanks so much
 

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If u look at the functions, they both have a factor of t, so they are like sin(t) or just t, odd.
 
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Spoolx said:
Well I thought I understood it, but I ran into two more problems which don't make sense

To me, they both should be Cos or even functions but the book says the first one is an odd function.

What am I missing?

Thanks so much

benorin said:
If u look at the functions, they both have a factor of t, so they are like sin(t) or just t, odd.

No benorin, that is not correct at all.

@Spoolx: Generally you should start a new thread with a new question. If you extend those functions by drawing more periods as you did before you will wind up with one of three possibilities: even, odd, or neither. Ignoring the book's answer, tell us what you think and why.
 

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