Having trouble with this canoe/relative velocity problem.

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The discussion revolves around a canoeing problem involving relative velocity, where two students paddle upstream for 1.5 hours, covering 1.1 km, before turning around to retrieve a bottle that has drifted downstream. The key equations derived include (1.5 + t)*S_r = 3 km, t*(S_r + S_b) = 4.1 km, and (S_b - S_r)*1.5 = 1.1 km, where S_r represents the speed of the river and S_b the speed of the boat in still water. The challenge lies in solving these equations with three unknowns, leading to confusion about how to proceed with the solution.

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Homework Statement



Two students are canoeing on a river. While heading upstream, they accidentally drop an empty bottle overboard. They then continue paddling for 1.5 h, reaching a point 1.1 Km farther upstream. At this point they realize that the bottle is missing and, driven by ecological awareness, they turn around and head downstream. They catch up with and retrieve the bottle (which has been moving along with the current) 4.1 Km downstream from the turn-around point.


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I got the speed in the first phase of the problem, (1.1km/1.5h) but don't know where to go from here.

Thanks!
 
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btbam91 said:

Homework Statement



Two students are canoeing on a river. While heading upstream, they accidentally drop an empty bottle overboard. They then continue paddling for 1.5 h, reaching a point 1.1 Km farther upstream. At this point they realize that the bottle is missing and, driven by ecological awareness, they turn around and head downstream. They catch up with and retrieve the bottle (which has been moving along with the current) 4.1 Km downstream from the turn-around point.


The Attempt at a Solution



I got the speed in the first phase of the problem, (1.1km/1.5h) but don't know where to go from here.

Thanks!

I think it helps to draw a picture. I did and came up with three equations in three unknowns:

(1.5 + t)*S_r = 3km
t*(S_r + S_b) = 4.1km
(S_b - S_r)*1.5 = 1.1km

(1.5hr + t) is the total time of the trip, S_r is the speed of the river, and S_b is the speed of the boat in still water.
 
Ugh. I kept coming up with 2 equations with 3 unknowns... thank you so much.

I went to thread tools, but there isn't an option to mark the question solved...
 

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