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The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of heating a saturated aqueous salt solution using steam from boiling water. The original poster questions whether the solution can be heated to a temperature greater than 100°C.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the conditions under which steam can heat a solution above 100°C, discussing concepts like superheating and the effects of dissolved ions on boiling points.

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Some participants have offered insights regarding the boiling point elevation due to the presence of salt in the solution, while others have questioned the initial assumptions about steam temperature and its limitations. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between steam, temperature, and solution properties.

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Participants mention the need for additional information regarding the specific conditions under which the heating occurs, including pressure and the nature of the solution. There are also references to the participants' varying levels of understanding of the concepts involved.

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Hi I am a student at Brazil and I have a question.

Is possible this phenomenon: A tube passes steam from a container of boiling water into a saturated aqueous salt solution. Can it be heated by the steam to a temperature greater than 100°C ?
 
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Only if you provide some means of superheating the steam, such as boiling the water under high pressure or passing the steam tube through a secondary heat source. You can't transfer more heat from a substance than it contains.
If you mean, can the solution remain liquid at greater than 100° C, I think that the water would just boil off and leave the salt behind. Someone better check me on that, though.
 
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I agree. As I understand it, the liquid may well be at a temperature greater than 373K due to ions dissolved in solution but the steam can only ever be at 373K unless the stream itself is heated in a secondary process.
 
I just double-checked, and I was wrong about solutions. Since the salt lowers the vapour pressure of the water, saline has a boiling point above that of pure water. In that case, superheated steam could indeed raise its temperature higher than 100° C and still let it remain a liquid. You still can't raise the temperature of the initial steam higher than that just by boiling water, though.
 
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I just double-checked, and I was wrong about solutions. Since the salt lowers the vapour pressure of the water, saline has a boiling point above that of pure water. In that case, superheated steam could indeed raise its temperature higher than 100° C and still let it remain a liquid. You still can't raise the temperature of the initial steam higher than that just by boiling water, though.

First two guesses don't count. Can you answer correctly with number three?
 
Okay, what did I miss this time? :redface:
 
Enthalpy of dilution.
 
In English, please. :-p
Remember, I never finished high-school.
 
Sol'n(pick your solute, solvent, and concentration; T) + Solvent(same; T) mixed to form Sol'n(same solute, same solvent, new concentration, less than original) PLUS enthalpy of dilution. Positive, negative, large, small. Not to be confused with enthalpy of solution
 

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