Heat energy out of 500 w halogen bulb?

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The discussion revolves around the heat energy output of a 500W halogen bulb, specifically focusing on how much heat is liberated and the temperature reached after one minute of operation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the bulb's power output and the heat generated, questioning how to account for light absorption in a closed environment. Some express uncertainty about measuring heat versus power and the implications of light escaping the system.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes various perspectives on the assumptions made about heat and light interaction. While some participants suggest that all light eventually converts to heat, others emphasize the need for more specific information about the bulb's construction and environment. There is no clear consensus, and the discussion remains open-ended.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of information regarding the bulb's efficiency and the conditions under which the measurements are taken, which complicates the ability to provide a definitive answer.

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heat energy out of 500 w halogen bulb?

how much heat energy is liberated out of a 500W halogen bulb??>?
what temp is reached in 1 min.
 
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It's impossible to say without more information. The bulb produces 500W of both heat and light combined, but the specifics of the bulb's construction determines how much of each.

- Warren
 


If I had to guess Id say about 450 Watts. The temp I'm guessing is around 60C in one minute.
 


chroot said:
It's impossible to say without more information. The bulb produces 500W of both heat and light combined, but the specifics of the bulb's construction determines how much of each

How would you treat light that gets absorbed? If you treat all light as getting absorbed within a room with no windows isn't all the power going into heat - eventually?
 


LowlyPion said:
How would you treat light that gets absorbed? If you treat all light as getting absorbed within a room with no windows isn't all the power going into heat - eventually?

Isn't that what happens with all light?
 


Topher925 said:
Isn't that what happens with all light?

I said "eventually" because until the light is absorbed somewhere mustn't you presume that it is light in transit until absorbed, even if the eventually part of it may be a very small period of time for a small room?
 


LowlyPion said:
How would you treat light that gets absorbed? If you treat all light as getting absorbed within a room with no windows isn't all the power going into heat - eventually?

Yes, that's true, but the OP never mentioned anything about light-tight rooms, etc.

- Warren
 


chroot said:
Yes, that's true, but the OP never mentioned anything about light-tight rooms, etc.

Not to carry the point too far afield, and keeping in mind the introductory nature of such a question as the OP, doesn't it depend on how you go about measuring for heat v. power?

If you fail to account for the measurement of all the heat generated, regardless of the room, doesn't that mean that you have measured inaccurately and not that the heat is only just what you measured and failed to capture from the light that escapes?

The temperature reached after 1 minute to me is the more indeterminate idea.
 


Why are we beating this dead horse? There's not enough information to answer the question, so the thread's done. I'm not really interested in debating the engineering of a proper calorimeter. Suffice to say that yes, if you want a good measurement, you should probably build a good measurement apparatus.

- Warren
 
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If what the OP is asking in the first question is the efficiency (watts of light vs total watts) of the bulb, that can be found easily enough with a google: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incandescent_light_bulb#Luminous_efficacy_and_efficiency

There are actually two types, with efficiencies of 2.3 and 3.5%.

The operating temperature is reached in just a few seconds and it can also be found via google: http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2003/ElaineDevora.shtml

It's somewhere between 3000 and 3400K.

As others have pointed out, in most real-world situations very, very little of the light does not become heat so for practical calculations (for example, when determining an air conditioning load) you can probably simplly assume all of it becomes heat.
 

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